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62 <br />1 <br />2 <br />3 <br />4 <br />5 <br />6 <br />7 <br />8 <br />9 <br />10 <br />11 <br />12 <br />13 <br />14 <br />15 <br />16 <br />17 <br />18 <br />19 <br />20 <br />21 <br />22 <br />23 <br />24 <br />25 <br />26 <br />27 <br />28 <br />JUROR NO. 11: Yes. <br />THE COURT: Juror No. 12? <br />JUROR NO. 12: Yes. <br />THE COURT: The Court finds this to be a true <br />verdict as to all questions and answers stated. <br />All right. We need to talk. Okay? So this is the <br />situation, ladies and gentlemen. <br />First, let me thank you on behalf of everyone for <br />your careful attention to this case and the verdict form and <br />the verdict. We really appreciate your attention and your <br />patience with us. <br />In this case you found as to a couple of the <br />questions that Ryan Ogulnick conducted himself with malice, <br />oppression, or fraud. When that happens, the plaintiff is <br />entitled to what's called punitive damages. Punitive damages <br />are to be assessed in a second phase of the trial. It is a <br />very short second phase. <br />Counsel's entitled to give an opening statement. <br />They can present witnesses. I don't expect it to take very <br />long. In fact, I expect the only witness -- there to be only <br />one witness by the plaintiff? <br />MR. RUBINER: One, maybe two. <br />THE COURT: One, maybe two witnesses. It's now <br />4:05. We would not be able to finish this today. My question <br />to you, ladies and gentlemen, is are you all able to come to <br />court tomorrow? <br />Please raise your hands if you are not able to come <br />to court tomorrow. <br />Coalition Court Reporters 1213.471.2966 1 www.ccrola.com <br />