HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-19-1973MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF SANTA ANA, CALIFORNIA
March 19, 1973
The meeting was called to order at 2:05 P.M. by Vice Mayor Wade Herrin
in the Council Chambers of the City Hall, 22 Civic Center Plaza, with the
following Councilmen present: J. Ogden Markel, Jerry M. Patterson, Ray
Villa, and Harry K. Yamamoto. Mayor Lorin Griset arrived at 2:06 P.M.,
and Councilman Vernon S. Evans arrived at 2:13 P.M. 'Also present were
City Manager Bruce C. Spragg, City Attorney Jam&s:A. Withers, Director
of Planning Charles C. Zimmerman, Director of Public Works Ronald
Wolford, and Clerk of the Council Florence I. Malone.
HOUSING AUTHORITY At 2:08 P. M,, Council
recessed to convene the
Housing Authority. The
meeting reconvened at 2:20 P.M. with all Councilmen present.
MINUTES The Minutes of the Regular Meet-
ing of March 5, 1973, and the
Adjourned Regular Meeting of
March 12, 1973, were approved as submitted, on motion of Councilman
Herrin, seconded by Councilman Yamamoto, and unanimously carried.
OLD CITY HALL PURCHASE The Council discussed an
article in the REGISTER
on Sunday, March 18, 1973,
regarding the purchase of the Old City Hall by the Del Pueblo Management
and Development Co. , 2509 South Main. Councilmen Evans, Herrin and
Markel stated that at the time of the auction sale of the property on
February 20, 1973, they had been under the impression that the property
had been purchased by Banco del Peublo rather than Del Pueblo Management
and Development Co. The consensus of the remaining Council m embers was
that there may have been some confusion regarding the name of the
purchaser due to the fact that at the property auction, the statement was
made that the building would be occupied by Banco del Pueblo and that
some officers of the bank are also partners of the Company. (CA 45A)
SPECIAL RECOGNITION
who were participating in Youth Civics Day.
in behalf of their respective schools:
The Mayor gave special
recognition to high school
students in the audience
The following students spoke
Desni Scott, 2424 N. Tustin Ave., representing Santa Aha High School;
Matt Tully, 1030 Sherwood Lane, representing Mater Dei High School;
Monica Gonzales, 2205 Civic Center Drive West, representing Valley High;
Tina Anatra, 2528 S. Pacific, representing Saddleback High School; and
Porter Smith, 1942 N. Baker, speaking on behalf of DeMolay.
The student consensus was that they were greatly enjoying Youth Civics Day,
and that the event should be continued on an annual basis. (CA 83.3)
EXECUTIVE SESSION
C omrd s s ion.
Council recessed to an Executive
Session at 2:50 P.M. to consider
an appointment to the Planning
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PLANNING COMMISSION Mr. Din Griset, 1317 North
APPOINTMENT Garnsey, was appointed to the
Planning Commission to fill
the vacancy created by the resignation of Commissioner Waldo Haug, on motion
of Councilman Patterson, seconded by Councilman Villa, and carried on a
4 - 2 vote with Councilmen I-Ierrln and Markel dissenting and Mayor Griset
nbs raining.
Prior to the motion, Mayor Griset stated that he had not participated in the
discussions or recommendations regarding the appointrrent of Dan Griset,
his son, to the Planning CommiSsibn. (CA 78.1a)
CONSENT CALENDAR The following Agenda items
were removed from the
Consent Calendar: Items
5 B, 5 C, and 5 E requested by Councilman Yamamoto.
On motion of CoUncilman Herrin, seconded by Councilman Evans, and
unanimously carried, Council affirmed the recommended action on the
following Consent Calendar items:
BID CALLS '
for bids on the following:
Approved plans and
specifications, and
authorized adver tis errent
SPEC. 73-004 - Added equipment for Fire Department
Breathing Air Filling Station; Opening April 6, 1973,
2:00 P.M. (CA 89 G)
BID AWARDS
responsible bidder:
Awarded contracts as
follows on the basis of
lowest, best and most
SPEC. 73-00Z - Drapery material for various offices
in City I-~ll and,Council Chambers (CA 89 G)
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE
LICENSE APPLICATIONS
License Application:
Received and ordered
filed the following
Alcoholic Beverage
LUCKY TWO, INC. , 1530 S. Greenville, Off Sale
Beer & Wine; Person to Person Transfer. (CA 146)
The City Attorney was instructed to file a pretest with the Alcoholic
Beverage Control Board on the following applications because the
location is within 300 feet of a residential zone and4s therefore
subject to the Minor t~ception Permit procedure:
WILSON, Richard T., 2821S. Bristol, On Sale
Beer & Wine (Bona Fide Public Eating Place);
Original. (CA 146; CA 146A)
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MARCH I9, 1973
GELLER, Richard M., 3800 S. Plaza Drive,
On Sale General (Bona Fide Public Eating
Place); Priority No. 10 (CA 146; CA 146A)
SOLICITATION APPLICATION
Approved the following
solicitation application:
NATIONAL EASTER SEAL SOCIETY FOR CRIPPLED
CHILDREN AND ADULTS, INC. - Bike-A-Thon part of
the overall Easter Seal campaign effort; from March 31,
1973 to April 8, 1973. (CA 91)
VARIANCES
Received and ordered
filed the following
applications:
VA 73-5, MINEO SHINODA - To construct temporary
greenhouses for plant propagation purposes only,
in the C 2 and R 1 Districts at 4810 West 17th Street;
APPROVED. (CA 13)
VA 73-8, WILLIAM A. AND CAROLYN K.
CRONBERGER - To increase the number of
guests and to include additional buildings in
an existing rest home in the R 1 District at
501-507 Anahurst Place; APPROVED (CA 13)
VA 73-9, DAN PETTAY AND STEVEN R. FRACK -
To allow expansion of a pet hospital in the C 5
District originally approved under VA 1700 at
1520 North Grand Avenue; AP PROVED. (CA 13)
PUBLIC PROPERTY USE
Property:
Approved the following
application for Special
License to Use Public
NATIONAL EASTER SEAL SOCIETY FOR CRIPPLED
CHILDREN AND ADULTS, INC. - Bike-A-Thon
beginning at Cerritos College; check points in Santa
Ana are Prentice Park andAdarns Park, on March 31,
1973 from 8:00 A.M. to 3:00 P.M. (CA 45.1)
DEEDS, NO CASH Received and ordered
GRANTEE, 'CITY filed a report of No-Cash
Deeds accepted by the
City Manager, pursuant to Resolution #69-156, from March 8, 1973
through March 14, 1973. (CA 155; Deeds 5191, 5192, 5193)
TENTATIVE PARCEL/
TRACT MAPS
Planning Director's report:
Approved the following
maps subject to condi-
tions contained in the
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP #789 - Filed by Antone
Borchard Estate, creating two (2) Ri-PRD parcels;
parcel #1 to be used for residential development
and parcel #2 to be used for future church and
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school site (private school), located generally south-
east of the intersection of Warner Avenue and Green-
ville Street. (CA 25)
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP ~796 - Filed by W. H.
Daum and Staff, creating ten (10) M 1 parcels to be
used for industrial uses, located generally on the
east side of Ritchey Street at Glenwood Place and
Saint Andrew Place. (CA 25)
* * * * * * * * * * * CONSENT CALENDAR FINIS * * * * * * * * * **
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE Council considered the
LICENSE APPLICATIONS Alcoholic Beverage License
Application of James R.
and June R. Mulligan, and CounCilman Herrin's motion to receive and
file the application, seconded by Councilman Evans, was substituted by
a motion to consider the item later in the meeting pending receipt of
additional information from staff made by Councilman Herrin, seconded
by Councilman Patterson, and carried with Councilman Evans voting NO.
Councilman Patterson's motion to receive and file the following application
was seconded by Councilman Herrin, and carried with Councilman
Yamamoto voting NO:
SCHOONOVER, Betty J., Executrix of the Estate of
Charles L. Schoonover, Sr., 1802 S. Standard, On
' Sale General (Public Premises); Person to Person
Transfer. (CA 146)
Councilman Herrin's motion to recexve and file the following application
was seconded by Councilman Patterson, and carried with Councilman
Yamamoto voting NO:
BROOME, MaryA. and Norman L., 1Z15-A East
Pomona Street, On Sale Beer; Person to Person
Transfer~ (CA 146)
READING WAIVED On motion of Councilman Herrin,
seconded by Councilman Evans,
and unanimously carried, the
full reading of ordinances and resolutions, the titles of which appeared on
the public Agenda, was waived.
ORD. NS-1157 ORDINANCE NS-1157 -
ADDING TO MUNICIPAL CODE AN ORDINANCE OF THE
SCREENING OF APPURTENANCES CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF SANTA ANA
ADDING SECTIONS 41-120 AND 41-622 TO THE SANTA ANA MUNICIPAL
CODE REQUIRING THE SCREENING OF MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT AND
APPURTENANCES ON THE ROOF AND EXTERIOR OF BUILDINGS was
adopted on motion of Councilman Herrln, seconded by Councilman Evans,
and carried on the following roll call vote:
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AYES: Herrin, Evans, Villa, Griset,
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
(CA 10.1; CA 74)
Yamamoto, Patterson, Markel
ORD. NS-1159 ORDINANCE NS-1159 -
AMENDING MUNICIPAL CODE AMENDING THE SANTA
EMERGENCY ORGANIZATION ANA MUNICIPAL CODE
: ~ BY AMENDING DIVISION 3,
ARTICLE IV, OF CHAPTER 2 THEREOF RELATING TO EMERGENCY
ORGANIZATION AND FUNCTIONS was adopted on motion of Councilman
Herrin, seconded by, Councilman Patterson, and carried on the following
roll call vote:
AYES: Herrin, Patterson, Villa, Evans, Griset, Yamamoto, Markel
NOES: None
ABSENT: None ,. '
(CA 79; CA 144; CA 74)
RES. 73-22 RESOLUTION 73-22
SANTA ANA RIVER URGING THE UNITED
BASIN FLOOD HAZARD STATES CONGRESS TO
APPROPRIATE FUNDS
TO COMPLETE THE STUDY OF THE SANTA ANA RIVER BASIN FLOOD
HAZARD, AND IMPLEMENT MEASURES TO ALLEVIATE THE THREAT
OF FLOODING was adopted on motion of Councilman Patterson, seconded
by Councilman Yamamoto, and carried with Councilman Herrin voting NO.
(CA 53)
POOL TABLE APPLICATION Council approved the
HENRY V. PERALTA application of Henry V.
Peralta dated March 6,
1973, for permit to operate two pool tables at the business known as
"Local Tavern", 219 South Bristol, on motion of Councilman Evans,
seconded by Councilman Herrin, and carried with Councilman Yamamoto
voting NO. (CA.91.1)
COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT The Mayor announced that the
AGENCY PARTICIPATION City Attorney's Opinion No.
73-22 dated March 9, 1973,
regarding the responsibility of a City Councilman to serve as a member
of the Redev~Iol~ment Agency and Housing Authority Commission, was
open for discussion.
Councilman Patterson stated that he would like to hear from Councilman
Markel on the subject; that when a Councilman is elected, everyone
expects him to serve, even if only to vote NO on matters he does not
agree with; and that a Councilman should take a position on each and
every issue that comes to him.
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Councilman IViarkel responded that he had read the City Attorney's opinion
and was aware of the remedies available if~ he refused to serve; and that
he would not sit on the Santa Ana Redevelopment Agency per se with all
of its ramifica~ions~'
Councilman Herrin stated that he probably shared many of the same
emotions as Councilman Markel regarding the Housing Authority and the
Redevelopment AgenFy; that he had not supported either of them
and had made a public statement that he would not serve as a member of
the Housing Authority; however, after having some serious discussions
with some of the people he considered to be supporters and constituents
who had expressed their desire to be properly represented, he felt that
he had no alternative but to serve; and that by not serving, the result
would be the same as an approval.
Councilman -Villa stated that Mr. Markel's actions set a precedent which
would allow any Councilman to walk out when he did not want to face the
issue; that the alternatives set forth in the attorney's opinion were too
drastic; that when the people are not being served, they should come forth
and protest and it should not be left to fellow Councilmen to point out the
failure.
Councilman Evans stated that there were many issues that were difficult
to face, but that it was the responsibility of a Councilman to cast his
vote; that Councilman Markel was failing in his duty to the elected people
by not protesting by negative vote.
Mayor Griset stated that he was very disappointed in Councilman Markel's
position, however, he would have no part in any effort to recall or
judicially remove or prosecute him.
Councilman Yamamo~o stated the~e were others on the Redevelopment
Agency who would expect to be given the same treatment ;and be given
permission not to vote if they did not want to; that he knew Councilman
Markel was very sincere in his opinions, but that the people were not
being given proper representation by his refusing to serve.
Councilman Evans stated that under no circumstances would he support
action of any kind against Councilman Markel, but that he would expect
to receive the same treatment from Council if he refused to serve on
any controversial mat ter.
Councilman Patterson stated that his main concern was one of precedent;
that he did not believe that Councilman Markel deserved special treatment;
that he would support any, kind of action necessary to cause any Councilman
to do his job. (CA 81.1; CA 82)
TRAFFIC CONTROL Council received and ordered
STANFORD STREET filed the report of the Director
AT KING STREET of Public Works dated March 14,
1973, and instructed the Police
Department to continue speed enforcement activity in the area of Stanford
and King Streets, as much as manpower limitations permitted, on motion of
Councilman Herrin, seconded by Councilman Yamamoto, and unanimously
carried. (CA 18.3a; CA 151.5)
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BID NO. 7034 :Council considered the
DEMOLITON OF COMMUNITY CENTER Summary of Bids dated
AND AUDIO VISUAL BUILDING March 14, 1973, for the
demolition 'of the Community
Center and Audio Visual Building, located at 1104 West Civic Center Drive.
On motion of Councilman Yamamoto, seconded by Councilman Patterson,
and unanimously carried, Council authorized waiver of bid advertisement
procedure in accordance with Charter Section 421, based on a finding
that the work iQ of urgent necessity for the preservation of life, health,
or property, and awarded the contract to Kennedy Land Clearing Co.,
Santa Ana, for completion of demolition per specifications, on the basis
of being the lowest responsible and best bidder to comply with the
specifications.
Prior to voting, Councilman Evans stated that he had received a telephone
call from a Mr. Harrelson, who indicated that he had been deprived of
an opportunity to purchase wire at the location.
The Purchasing Agent stated that Mr. Harrelson had been interested in
the copper wire and conduit that had been left in the burned out portion
of the Community Center building; that the Fire Department had removed
that wire and was using it for installation of air conditioners in various
fire stations; that if there was any surplus it would be sold at auction at
a later date. (CA 89 G; CA 45)
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Mr. Billy C. Hall, Executive
BUS ROUTES AND TERMINAL Director of the Santa Aha
City Center Association, P.O.
Box 1896, distributed to Councila copy ofaletter dated March 19, 1973,
addressed to the Orange County Transit District requesting realignment
of existing bus routes, or the addition of new routes, and a more suitable
location for terhiinal operations to better serve the needs of the City, and
requested that Council consider the proposals contained in the letter.
Councilman Evans' motion to refer the letter to staff was seconded by
Councilman Villa, and unanimously carried. (CA 84; CA 84.4)
ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE Council considered the Alcoholic
LICENSE APPLICATION Beverage License Application
of James R. and June R. Mulli-
gan, 4406 West Bolsa, On Sale Beer; Person to Person Transfer, which had
been deferred earlier in the meeting pending additional information from
staff, regarding a lease on the premises which had been entered into in
conjunction with a former ABC application.
Lieutenant Eugene Hansen of the Police Department stated that it was his
understanding that the conditions placed on the license at the present time
were not transferable, however, there was not sufficient cause to protest
a person to person transfer at the premises.
Councilman Yamamoto's motion to instruct the City Attorney to prepare a
letter protesting the application until such time as the transferee submits
a lease to the City Attorney for his approval that was similar to the lease
held by the transferor, was seconded by Councilman Evans, and carried
with Councilman Patterson voting NO. (CA 146; CA 146A)
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Councilman Evans thanked
the Director of Building and
Safety for his letter regarding
high-rise buildings, and suggested that it be distributed to each Councilman.
(CA 87)
RECESS ' ~' At 4:10 P.M., Council
recessed to dinner and a
joint meeting for discussion
purposes only with the City Council of Garden Grove at the Saddleback Inn
to discuss the Willowlck Golf Course Agreement and other items of mutual
interest. The press and public were invited to attend.
JOINT MEETING The joint dinner meeting
GARDEN GROVE CITY COUNCIL AND between the City Councils of
SANTA ANA CITY COUNCIL Garden Grove and Santa Aha
was convened at 5:10 P.M.
in the Trabuco Room ab the Saddleback Inn, 1660 East First Street, by
Mayor Bernard Adams.
The following persons were in attendance:
Garden Grove Council and Staff:
Bernard Adams, Mayor
Woodrow Butterfield, Councilman
Walter Donovan, Councilman
Lewis Lake, Councilman
· Lawrence Schmit, Councilman
Richard Powers, City Manager
Eric Lauterer, City Attorney
Owen ~Witthauer, Assistant City Manager
Delbert Po~vers, Assistant City Manager
Owen Wiesner, Administrative Services Director
Ruby Silva, City Clerk
Richard Rafanovic, Assistant City Manager
Pat Randolph, Attorney, O'Melveny and Myers
William Barker, President, Garden Grove Chamber of Commerce
City of Santa. Aha Council and Staff:
Lorln Griset, Mayor
Vernon S. Evans~ Councilman
Wade Herrin, Councilman
J. Ogden Markel, Councilman
Jerr~y Patterson, Councilman
Ray Villa, ~ Councilman
Harry I<. Yamamoto, Councilman
BruceSpragg, City Manager
James Withers, City Attorney
Tom Andrusky, Assistant City Manager
Gene Judd,, Fire Chief
John Stevens, Assistant Director of Public Works
Bomo Koral, Park Superintendent
Representatives of the press were also in attendance.
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WILLOWICK GOLF COURSE The City Manager of Santa
STATUS SUMMARY Aha distributed a status
surnrnary of the pending
agreements between Santa Ana and Garden Grove relative to the Willowick
Golf Course. He stated that the Santa Aha City Council had tentatively
approved the memorandum of agreement calling for the City's de-annexation
of Willowick and the acquisition of three parcels of land for Garden Grove
to round out the property Santa Aha would need to develop a park site in
the Willowick Area, and had requested the City Attorney to research the
legal ramifications.
The City Manager of Garden Grove stated that the basic concern has been
the need for retaining the Golf Course as perpetual open space; that his
Council had retained the legal firm of O'Melveny and Myers to answer any
concerns that the cities might have; that the Willowick de-annexation was
one of a series of items for mutual cooperation.
The Santa Ana~City Attorney stated that several legal points had been
raised and discussed; i.e., the matter of obtaining the consent of the
bond holders to the entire transaction, including a determination regarding
purchase of the park site parcels or a long-tera~n lease agreement; that
research had indicated a 50-year open space easement for Willowick would
probably not be enforceable.
Pat Randolph, Attorney, stated that Garden Grove had retained him to
develop the best binder that the golf course would remain open space; that
research had established the most effective way to be the 50-year open
space easement; and that the trustee for the Garden Grove Willowick
Recreational Facility, Inc. , Crocker National Bank, had given written
consent to the proposed easement. He stated that the bond holders' consent
would be necessary to effect the sale of the park site parcels in Santa Aha
and to impose the open space easement on their secured interest in
Willowick; that in the event Garden Grove violated the easement, Santa
Aha could enforce it and that bondholders' consent would not be necessary
for Santa Aha to require that Garden Grove use the property for open
space only; and that the easement would not affect Garden Grove's right
to condemn the easement.
The City Attorney of Garden Grove, referring to the possibility of
condemnation by Garden Grove, stated that he would be willing to recom-
mend that the Garden Grove City Council approve a formula whereby a
pre-determined value amount for the entire transaction would be stipulated
for payment to the City of Santa Ana as an extra protection in the event
a future Council might initiate condemnation proceedings.
Mr. Withers stated that other factors of the proposed agreement regarding
expenditures of funds for street alignrnents, storm drains and improve-
ments to the golf course would not necessarily be binding on future Councils.
Councilman Patterson requested: (1) Some security regarding the
legislative agreement cornrnitments by Garden Grove; (2) Some indica-
tion of what the fair market value would be at a future date, up to five
years; (3) Comment on the possibility of the three parcels being
severed from the golf course to become part of Santa Aha sooner than
the lease arrangement would provide.
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City Manager Powers stated that Garden Grove would put necessary funds
into an escrow to secure the storm drain and street improvements.
City Attorney Lauterer stated that the Garden Grove City Council could not
unilaterally decide to subdivide or take the Willowick property by eminent
domain; that such a decision would have to be made by the voters pursuant
to state law relative to park lands. (CA 5Z. 6; A-73-3)
CITY-SCHOOL Park Superintendent Koral
JOINT FACILITIES USE PROGRAM described the Santa Ana
Schools - City joint use
program of park facilities under 25-year agreements with the various
school districts in the City. City Manager Spragg offered to make copies
of the agreements available to Garden Grove in the event it wished to
implement a similar program. (CA 38.4)
GARDEN GROVE City Manager Powe rs
MANAGEMENT CONCEPTS described Garden Grove's
team management concepts
and the community seminar recently held at the Western White House.
RECESS At 7:10 P.M., the joint
Councils' Meeting was
recessed. The Santa Aha
Council reconvened its regular meeting at the City Hall Council Chambers,
22 Civic Center Plaza, at 7:30 P.M. with all Council members present.
Following the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag, the Invocation was given
by the Reverend Dr. Donald E. Reiter of the First Baptist Church. (CA 80.17)
PLANNING COMMISSION
APPOINT MENT
congratulated by Council.
(CA 78. la)
Dan Griset was sworn in by the
Clerk as a member of the Plan-
ning Commission, and was
PRESS RELEASE The Mayor invited Hector
HECTOR GODINEZ Godinez and Rudy Gallegos
RUDY GALLEGOS to speak as the first item of
· business; however~ the item
was deferred until they were available to make their presentation.
STREET VACATION
Poinsettia Street south of Penn Way.
The Mayor opened the public
hearing ,on the proposed
vacation of a portion of
The Assistant Director of Public Works stated that the City had no intentions
of ever extending Poinsettia street to the south and therefore his department
recommended adoption of the resolution.
There were no proponents or opponents, and the Clerk reported no written
communications had been received. The Mayor closed the public hearing.
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RESOLUTION 73-17 ORDERING THE VACATION OF A PORTION OF
POINSETTIA STREET SOUTH OF PENN WAY was adopted on motion of
Councilman Herrin, seconded by Councilman Yamamoto, and carried on
the following roll call vote:
AYES: Herrin, Yarnamoto, Villa, Evans, Griset, Patterson, Markel
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
(CA14)
PRESS RELEASE
HECTOR GODINEZ
RUDY E. GALLEGOS
and invited them to speak.
The Mayor acknowledged
that Mr. Hector Godinez
and Mr. Rudy E. Oallegos
were in the audience,
Councilman Villa stated that he would like the Clerk to record everything
that would be said verbatim so that the Register might have the right
account of the testimony.
Mayor Griset stated that he assumed since there was no objection that the
matter could be taken out of order, but that he would abide by Coucil's direction.
Councilman Evans stated that he thought the rest of the people should have
the same privilege; that items should be considered in agenda order.
Councilmen Evans and Herrin agreed that they had an agenda and items
which are not publicly notified belong on the oral communications portion
of the agenda.
Councilman Villa's motion for a special order of business to give the floor
to Hector Godinez and Rudy E. Gallegos, was seconded by Councilman
Patterson, and carried on the following roll call vote;
AYES: Villa, Patterson, Evans, Herrin, Griset, Yamamoto, Markel
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Hector Godinez: I am very grateful for opportx~nity to be able to speak to
this august group this evening. Very proud of being an American and proud of the
opportunity this city has given its citizens. The press should be and is guardian
of public service and public actions. I feel this as strongly as any man can.
For everything to be equal, there has to be a certain amount of responsibility
on both sides of the fence. I will read a press release concerning a recent
article in the Register which bothers me very much. I hope that you have
the patience to listen to me read a 2-page press release. I make this
presentation because I am a proud man, and Mexican-American people are
proud people. We approached in a businesslike manner. We approached
the City Council in an open manner and advised them of the company that
had been formed to take the forefront in the negotiations of this building.
We are in a position where we feel our usefulness to the Commission may be
somewhat compromised. I believe in honor and I would like to extend to you
my resignation if you desire to pick it up. I love this town and believe it has
great potential. It needs agressive people to bring the town' into proper
perspective in the county. Its representatives can give help and potential
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to betterment of Santa Aha. I feel real close to this town and it has been
bothering me for the weekend because I feel my reputation has been in
some way compromised. We will not be the stepping stone or the excuse
for anybody to batter any group of people. We are taking a rightful place
in the community--we will defend our city, our country--we are proud to
be Americans. We are going to defend ourselves and this we intend to
make completely clear.
Mayor Griset: On behalf of myself, and, I trust, on behalf of the Council,
I felt outraged by the kind of article which attacked the ethics and all of
those things that were unjustly used in trying to discredit the auction of
the old city hall to your fi~m. I think the interests of the City of Santa Aha
were s~rved in selling to you. It's advantageous to the City and to your
Company. I can't think of a transaction that I was any happier about in
terms of benefits to both parties. It was all done in the open, done after
extensive advertising. There was some misunderstanding about the
formation of your management company, but this in no way repudiated the
transaction. It was handled in the open and since we understood that you
had formed another company based on a binding lease with the Banco del
Pueblo, it became the same thing. There is no issue legally or in terms
of open kind of transaction that occurred here on this floor. I congratulate
you for your response. I was delighted to see that this was being done
because it was exactly the way I felt and I think the way most of the members
of our Council felt, I would be disappointed if we accepted your resignation.
I know I would vote against accepting it, and I would not want to see you
resign because I think you can contribute a great deal. I don't think the
confidence of the people of Santa Ana has diminished in this. The kind of
attack-made upon you needs to be called, and this letter does it in very
good fashion.
Councilman ¥illa's motion for a minute order to endorse the letter to Mr.
James Dean, Executi~ze Editor, Santa Aha Register, from Rudy E. Gallegos,
President of Del Pueblo Management and Development Company, dated
March 19, 1973, and the press release read by Hector Oodinez, was
seconded by Counc~ilman Evans, and unanimously carried.
Rudy Gallegos: I have here before me a letter that I have directed to Mr.
James Dean, Executive Editor of the Register, 6Z5 North Grand Avenue.
(Mr. Galtegos re~d the letter in its entirety and requested that it be filed
for the record. CA 45A) ,
Wade Herrin: The statements made.in the letter, I would find reluctance
to approve in, the same manner. -I don't think our Council should be involved
in that kind of legal action. I certainly have a very strong feeling with
respect to the news release and I am willing to join in support of it.
Mayor Griset: I don'tthink that our action commits the City Council to any
legal action. Our endorsement of this letter simply means that we agree
with the two men, Mr. Godinez and Mr. Galleg~os, and ttleir charge that
the Santa Ana Register article is fraught with implications and unfounded
accusations.
Wade Herrin:, ~I would vote to approve action with regard to the press
release. I don't think that as a member of the Council I should be involved
in a letter directed to Mr. James Dean and signed by Mr. Gallegos because
that is an action between those two parties.
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Jerry Patterson: I would like to suggest that Mr. Gallegos expand his
letter to include not only Del Pueblo Management and Development but
those indi.viduals mentioned in the article, and have them sign the letter
as well.~ I would be more th, an happy to stand behind everything in that
letter. It is too bad that the newspaper that considers itself to be the
watchdog of the local government is not represented by their reporter
tonight. They chos~ apparently, not to be here to hear the rebuttal to
the article. I read about the first two-thirds or half and found it so far
away from the true facts and so slanted that I didn't finish. Too bad
that the article could not have been just that--instead of an editorial against
the Santa Ana Redevelopment plan and I apologize to the extent that Mr.
Godinez and Mr. Gallegos are members who happen to be caught in the
attack the Register is making upon the Redevelopment Agency. They
apparently looked really hard for something to write 'about. If you read
the Sunday article, you read lots of things in there like "two City appointed
officials who had expected to play key roles.." It was full of a bunch of
misstatements, like "City Hall quietly purchased." It was done after
public hearing--at open and competitive auction and would have been sold
to the highest bidder--they were the only bidder. It is too bad we can't
get a little better reporting done. If it were on the editorial page, O.K.,
but as a news article it was not factual. Everyone whose name was
mentioned should demand a retraction. See if you get it.
Ogden Markel: My opinion and friendship for the names of any of the men
mentioned in this article didn't lessen one iota. I think that these men
will all understand what I say that the friendship and opinion I have of
them is of the same high calibre. This may be a miscarriage of judgment,
however, speaking for myself. The gentlemen whose names are in this
article have not dropped any particle in the depths of my opinion of them.
I think maybe we are just adding fuel to the fire. It is unfort~nate that
this thing had to come up. I was very happy the night that Banco del Pueblo
were the bidders for this property. Iunderstood that then, and I have no
different opinion.
Wade Herrin: I have tremendous admiration for the comment that was made
throughout the entire press release. There is one that stood out in my
mind with regard to the group of men. (Read from press release: "..
remodeling this building without handouts, which might prove to other
possible participants in the downtown core area that this can be done by
private enterprise without the help of any governmental agency. ")
Vernon Evans: I have to feel like Hector Godinez and Rudy Gallegos on occasions
due to the fact of my connections with First American Title Co. It is of
public record and I would like to keep it that way. I would like to indicate
that using free enterprise, not waiting for the Redevelopment Agency to
condemn, we have purchased the Penny's building for expansion and intend
to develop it in the same way that we have the Fifth and Main building.
Mayor Griset: I applaud the First American Title Insurance and Trust
Company. (CA 45 A)
PUBLIC HEARING The Mayor opened the public
APPEAL - DANCE PERMIT hearing on the appeal filed by
JOHN CONLEY John Conley, on behalf of
Edward F. Eisenbeiss, Lee
J. Hasenjaeger, and Leland Finley, from the Police Chief's denial of a
dance permit at the cocktail lounge located at 2470 N. Tustin Avenue, Unit D.
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The City IV~anager referred to the report of the Police Chief dated
February 28, 1973, and stated that the dance permit had been denied for
two reasons: (1) That the building failed to meet the statutory requirements
relative to the size of the dance floor, and (2) That the operation was not
a bona fide eating place as defined by the Business and Professions Code.
The City Attorney stated that in addition there was a requirement that the
establishment seat 35 people and that they have at least two live musicians
present to furnish the music for dancing; that apart from Council's
consideration, the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board would still require
that there be a bona fide eating place.
The Clerk reported no written communications had been received.
Mr. John Conley, 12961 Greengrove Drive, Orange, the appellant, stated
that they had come before Council the previous November with a Minor
Exception appeal and had been granted permission to put in a cocktail
lounge within 300 feet of a residential area; that they did not know at
that time that they would not be able to get a dance permit; that their
plans had showed a dance floor; that they would be willing to make the
dance floor the required size and to subject the permit to any kind of
restrictions desired by Council; that they were a first-class establishment
and the dance floor would he for the benefit of customers and would never
be used for any lewd or risque type of entertainment; that they intended to
serve hors d'oeuvres during the course of the evening; that they also
intended to have sandwiches brought in and that there would be an oven
for customers' use in heating them.
Councilman Yamamoto' s motion to uphold the action of the Police Chief
in denying the dance permit was seconded by Councilman A4arkel, and
carried on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Yamamoto, l~4arkel, Herrin, Griset, Patterson
NOES: Villa, Evans
ABSENT: None
Prior to voting, Councilman Yamamoto stated that the appellant had come
before Council requesting one thing at a time with respect to the proposed
establishment, and-~that Council should have been told about the dance floor
when the~Minor Exception had been applied for.
Councilman Patterson agreed, stating that it was the applicant's burden
to inform Council of everything he intended to have at the time he applied for
a/V~inor Exception.
in response to an inquiry from Councilman Evans regarding potential police
problems, the Police Chief stated that the denial had not been based upon
any derogatory information; that the plans submitted showed the size of the
dance floor to be approximately 70 square .feet and with revisions would be
only Z10 square feet, and that in addition, the proposed establishment did
not meet bona fide license criteria.
Mayor Griset stated that he would be unable to support the appeal in view
of the fact that the operation would not be a bona fide eating establishment.
(CA 127)
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RECESS
with all Council members present.
At 8:30 P.M., a recess
was declared. The, meeting
reconvened at 8:40 P. M. ,
PUBLIC HEARING The Mayor opened the public
APPEAL #316; VA 73-3 hearing on Appeal #316, filed
RAY MADRID by Ray Madrid appealing the
Planning Commis sion' s denial
of Variance Application 73-3 to construct a 16-unit apartment complex in
the R 1 District at 4416 W. McFadden Avenue and 721 South Newhope Street.
The Planning Director summarized the reasons for denial contained in the
Planning Commission's Finding of Fact dated February 12, 1973 and
revised February Z6,, 1973, and pointed out to Council several examples
of other locations in the surrounding R 1 Districts that had been approved
for units. ,.
The Clerk reported no written comxnunications had been received.
Mr. Ray Madrid, the appellant, 902 South Newhope, stated that his parcel
had always been described as a "'T-shape" parcel because the bottom part
of the "T" had never been subdivided; that the property was 100 feet wide
and 200 feet deep and could not be, split; that he had complied with all of
the Planning Department requirements, including the requirement of
50% open space; that all setbacks had been met; that an attractive develop-
ment was planned; that the corner adjacent to his property was for sale
for the sum of $65,000 and it was doubtful that it would be developed R 1;
that there was commercial development in surrounding areas; that one of
the requirements was that a swimming pool be built; ' that he did not feel
that the 16 units warranted a swimming pool, but that he did propose
several other recreational facilities. Mr. Madrid presented to Council a
landscape rendering.
There were no opponents in the matter, and the Mayor closed the public
hearing.
Councilman Herrin's motion to grant the appeal and instruct the City
Attorney to prepare a resolution approving Variance Application 73-3
subject to conditions of approval contained in the Commission report,
was seconded by Councilman Evans, and carried on the following roll
call vote:
AYES: Herrin, Evans, Villa, Griset
NOES: Yamamoto, Patterson, Markel
ABSENT: None
P~ior to voting Councilman Patterson observed that the Findings of Fact
indicated that staff had recommended approval of the project for ten units
only; that he could support the motion if for ten units, but that the density
would be too high with sixteen units plus the existing dwelling on the parcel.
Councilman Patterson requested that the record indicate that the appellant
had visited him in his office for the purpose of discussing the matter with
him, but that he had explained to the appellant that he was unable to
discuss the merits of the case with him and had not done so. (CA 13.3)
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ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Mr. Norman Nienstedt,
NORMAN NIENSTEDT 320 West Tenth Street,
requested the resignation
of all of the Council members, with the exception of Councilman Markel,
stating that h.e was not satisfied with the job they were doing, and
expressed his displeasure with a number of matters including the manner
of the sale of the old city hall, the parking situation in the downtown area,
the dangerous condition of the new city hall, the hostile treatment he had
received at a Redevelopment Commission meeting and the incompleteness
of the minutes of that Commission meeting, the fact that he had had to
pay $ . 50 for the first page and $ .25 for each additional page for a copy
of the minutes; and the community redevelopment project in general and
how it would affect the citizens' natural property rights.
Mayor Griset explained the purpose of the Redevelopment Act and invited
Mr. Nienstedt to attend all of the Community Redevelopment meetings,
and assured him that Council was vitally concerned about the citizens'
property rights. (,CA 82)
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS Councilman Patterson
WILLOWICK referred to the dinner
meeting that had been
held that evening with members of the Garden Grove City Council and
staff, and suggested that the transaction with the City of Garden Grove
concerning the Willowick Golf Course de-annexation be approved or that
it at least be approved at the next meeting, and urged Councilmen who
wanted to suggest any modifications or additions to the proposed agree-
ment, do so.
Councilman Villa stated that there were still questions that had not been
answered by the City of Garden Grove, and suggested that Council seek an
opinion from outside legal counsel.
The City Attorney stated that he would be happy to get the opinion of
some outside authority, however, suggested that Council proceed that
evening to agree on as many elements of the proposal as possible; he
suggested that perhaps an agreement could be entered into where de-
annexation could take place in two or three increments.
There was discussion and clarification of ideas and facts concerning the
proposed agreement between Council members and staff.
Councilman Herrin's motion to adjourn the meeting was seconded by
Councilman Evans, and failed to carry on the followlng roll call vote:
AYES: Evans, Markel
NOES: Herrin, Villa, Griset, Yamamoto, Patterson
ABSENT: None
Prior to voting, Councilman Patterson stated that he had not offered
a motion on the Willowick Golf Course matter because he had wanted
to give an opportunity to everyone to discuss the matter, and that he
did not think the appropriate motion at that time was for adjournment.
Councilman Patterson's motion to instruct staff to proceed with the
preparation of a final agreement with the City of Garden Grove pursuant
to talks to date, and in addition thereto, that they consider all the
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elements discussed that evening at the 5:00 P.M. joint meeting with
the Garden Grove City Council, and in particular the including of the
placing in escrow of any monies for the storm drains and street improve-
ments that the City of Garden Grove was to perform, and to consider the
fair market value of the open space easement in the event of a breach,
was seconded by Councilman Villa, and carried on the following roll call
vote:
AYES:' ':PattersGn, Villa, Griset, Yamamoto
NOES: Evans, Herrin, Markel
ABSENT: N~ne
After voting, Councilman Patterson stated that he was in favor of having
the matter placed on the public agenda in the evening session for the
next Council meeting and that it be mad~ known to the press that there
would be discussion, but that he did not favor a legal notice publication.
Air. Douglas Clarke, 1510 Mar Les Drive, spoke, urging Council to
obtain outside legal counsel to aid in final negotiations with the City of
Garden Grove.
The Mayor expressed his appreciation for the time Mr. Clarke had
devoted to:the study of the Willowick Golf Course matter, and stated
that his domments had led to the addition of certain items in the proposed
agreement.
(CA 52.61 A-73-3)
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned
at 10:10 P.M. on motion of
Councilman Herrin, seconded
by Councilman Evans, and unanimously carried.
Florence I. Malone
Clerk of the Council
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