HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-15-1977MINUTES OF THE ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF SANTA ANA, CALIFORNIA
September 15, 1977
Mayor Vernon S. Evans called the meeting to order at 4:40 P.M.,
in the City Council Chambers, 22 Civic Center Plaza. The
following Council members were present: Gordon Bricken, Harry
K. Yamamoto, John Garthe, David L. Brandt and Mayor Evans.
Councilman James E. Ward was absent and Councilman David F. Ortiz
arrived at 4:45 P.M. Also present were the following members of
staff: City Manager Bruce C. Spragg, City Attorney Keith L. Gow,
Assistant City Manager Ronald Wolford, Director of Community
Redevelopment Richard Goblirsch and Clerk of the Council Florence
I. Malone.
INVOCATION
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Following the Pledge of
Allegiance to the Flag,
the Invocation was given
by Councilman Garthe.
TRANSPORTATION PLAZA Council reaffirmed the area
PARK-AND-RIDE STRUCTURE between Broadway and Birch,
LOCATION REAFFIRMED Fifth and Santa Ana Boulevard
as the location for the con-
struction of the proposed Transportation Plaza and an adjoining
Park-and-Ride structure, contingentupon completion and certification
of the necessary Environmental Impact Reports, on the unanimously
approved 6:0 motion of Councilman Yamamoto, seconded by Councilman
Ortiz. The motion included an instruction to staff and to the
architect, Blurock and Partners, to work with representatives of
the First Presbyterian Church, the Masonic Temple and the Orange
County Transit District to address fully the problems of personal
safety in and about the Transportation Plaza with the assistance
of the Police Department.
Prior to the motion, Mayor Evans announced that the meeting was
not a public hearing; that it had been scheduled to review the
proposed location of the Santa Ana Transportation Plaza and an
adjoining Park-and-Ride structure between Broadway and Birch
Street, Fifth Street and Santa Ana Boulevard; and that public
hearings would be held in conjunction with the environmental re-
view process, at which time comments on the Plaza and structure
would again be appropriate. Mayor Evans requested Mr. Goblirsch
to provide a review of the projects.
Mr. Goblirsch stated that the results of a feasibility study,
urged and promoted by the City Center Association, had indicated
that a transportation terminal was a desirable element for the
downtown area; that a site study was performed jointly by Orange
County Transit District and the Santa Ana Redevelopment Agency
for a specific location; and that' an architectural firm had been
employed to prepare preliminary plans for the development of a
transportation terminal.
Further, he stated that the first stage of the development, a
700-car park-and-ride structure, had aroused concern in the
community for the preservation of the Smith-Tuthill-Lamb Mortuary,
518 North Broadway; and that the design proposed and negotiations
effected will preserve the mortuary. The Director continued,
stating that the membership of the Masonic Temple and the First
Presbyterian Church are opposed to the site selected for the
Transportation Plaza and have indicated their intention to take
legal action to prevent its development.
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Councilman Ortiz arrived and took his Council seat at 4:45 P.M.
Mr. Goblirsch emphasized that the site studied is the most
feasible, does conform to the downtown redevelopment plan and
has been the subject of approximately 40 meetings held since
1973; that the site answers the problem of the person who will
use public transportation and has a desire to do business in the
downtown area; that it will be an asset, not a liability, to the
area; and that staff is prepared to respond to the pros and cons
presented at this meeting.
Mr. Bob Hench, architect with Blurock and Partners, and Mr. Brian
Pearson representing the Orange County Transit District, presented
a series of slides depicting the schematic master plan for the
Transportation Plaza along with a sketch and model to show how
the Project will fit into the site. It was stated that the site
is on the Orange County Transit District Corridor; so it will
be close to any future mass rapid transit development; that the
location, being the center of the County, will serve the center
of the City.
In their presentation, the proposed traffic patterns were de-
scribed as well as the landscaping and amenities of the project.
Mayor Evans asked for comments or questions from anyone opposed
to the location site and the following persons spoke:
Milford Dahl, Jr.,
Elder, First Presbyterian Church
401 Civic Center Drive
Santa Ana
Doy Henley,
representing the Masonic
1932 Heliotrope Drive
Santa Ana
Temple
Francis Griset
2324 Oakmont
Santa Ana
Donald Dobmeier
Orange County Historical
13132 Pleasant Street
Garden Grove
Commission
The opponents stated that a petition, sponsored by the Presbyterian
Church and the Masonic Temple, containing approximately 800 sig-
natures, opposing the Transportation Plaza site, had been filed
with the City; that neither the Church nor the Masonic Temple had
ever been officially notified of the proposal; that the major
objection to the Plaza is its incompatability with the Church and
the Temple; that it will discourage women and children from
attending church and temple functions because they will fear for
their safety, particularly when nearby surface street parking is
eliminated; that the added noise and congestion and pollution
would also be incompatible with the two facilities; that there
are other more suitable locations for the Transportation Plaza;
that the Orange County Historical Commission is on record
favoring preservation and adaptive re-use of the Smith-Tuthill-
Lamb Mortuary building; that the impact on it and other histor-
ical structures in the area, such as the Old Courthouse and the
Waffle House, should be taken into consideration.
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The following persons spoke in favor of the location site:
Dave Flaherty, Businessman & property owner, 116 W. 4th St.
Billy C. Hall, Executive Director, City Center Association
Dick Beem, 223 W. Fourth Street
Bill Hill, 1117 N. Concord
Lorin Griset, 2321 N. Linwood
Rudy Montejano, 2360 Riverside Drive
Ted Jessee, 1013 S. Main Street
Paul Guzman, 1S32 E. Chestnut
Alexander Nalle, 1926 Heliotrope Drive
Zika Djokovich, 211 N. Main Street
Clifford L. Benson, 1802 N. Main Street
Howard W. Way, 925 N. Flower Street
Michael T. McLean, 1326 W. Park Lane
Carol Benson, Executive Director, Orange County Transportation
Commission, 1020 N. Broadway, Suite 100
The proponents stated that the Plaza site had been publicized
and discussed since early in 1973; that the subject area is
going to change and if the Plaza is not built, something else
will be; that the project is well designed; that the Plaza will
improve downtown business by bringing people into the area and
providing ample parking; that historical buildings and a Trans-
portation Plaza are very compatible; that the impact will be
sociologically and economically positive and that the facility
will prove to be an asset to the Church and Temple; that the
Police Department will take the necessary measures to insure
the safety of all visitors to the area; that the Plaza will
help solve the energy crisis by encouraging convenient bus
usage instead of the private automobile; and that the project
will help Santa Aha get off dead center and grow again.
Mr. Milford Dahl spoke in rebuttal, for the opponents, stating
that the Session of the Presbyterian Church had voted unani-
mously to oppose the project and initiate legal action, if it
is necessary, to block it and that he was speaking as an elder
and the Church representative; that the same action had been
taken by the Masonic Temple; that neither organization objects
to the concept of the need for the parking and the Transportation
Plaza; that they are attacking the location because other loca-
tions could be considered; and that neither organization was
properly noticed.
Each of the Councilmen expressed his reasons for supporting
the motion prior to its adoption. CA 84.5
TRAVEL REQUEST Mr. Goblirsch stated
COUNCILFLIN BRANDT that a meeting has been
APPROVED scheduled with officials
of Montgomery Ward, at
their corporate headquarters in Chicago, Illinois, regarding
the relocation of the Santa Aha Store to the Fashion Square
Complex on North Main Street, and he requested that Councilman
Brandt be authorized to attend the meeting to be held on Monday,
September 19. Councilman Brandt's attendance and travel expenses
were authorized on the unanimously approved 6:0 motion of Coun-
cilman Garthe, seconded by Councilman Bricken. CA 80
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333 SEPTEMBER 1S, 1977
MAYOR'S ABSENCE Because he will be out
SEPTEMBER 19 of the City, the absence
EXCUSED of Mayor Evans from the
next Council meeting,
September 19, was excused on the unanimously approved motion 6:0
of Councilman Garthe, seconded by Councilman Brandt. CA 80
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Evans adjourned
the meeting at 7:10 P.M.
FLOI~NCE I. MALONE
CLERK OF THE COUNCIL
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES
334
SEPTEMBER 15, 1977
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