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1103 CITY HALL
LOS ANGELES. 12, CALIFORNIA
June 12, 1g~+5
Erma Keeler, City Clerk
3pnta Ana, California
Dear Madam:
BOARD OF ADMINISTRATION
JULIUS V. PATROSSO
PRESIDENT
JOSEPH E. HOPPER
VICE-PRESIDENT
LUTHER C, ANDERSON
WM. J. McNICHOLS
L. J. THOMPSON
ROBERT J. STAHL
MANAG ER•S ECR ETARY
In response to your request, I have considered the ques-
tian submitted in your letter to me under date of June ~, 1g~+5
as to whether an employee who works less than 50 percent of the
time or Taho has been employed less than six months is entitled
to vote at the coming employee election.
Sec, 3~ (c) 1 of the Act speaks of an election
"to permit the employees proposed to be included in the
retirement system to express by secret ballot their
approval or disapproval of said retirement proposal .'I
3o far as the employee with less than six months city service is
concerned, it is my opinion that he is entitled to vote because
he will automatically become a member of the system upon the comple-
tion of six months service.
Frankly, I do riot feel so certain of a firm opinion with
respect to employees working less tr.~n half time, although I am
inclined to the opinion that under sectior. 3~ of the Act such
employees are not eligible for me~nbershi?~ and therefore should not
vote. The section spews of employees serving on a part-tide
basis unless they were members July 1, 19.1. Obviously, the Act
is referring only to state employees, but for purposes of defini-
tion, *ahen we consider the case of a municipality, a person who
~~ ula be within the definitior. for state employment would be
T~~ithin the definition for city employment. Employees serving on
a part-tide basis do not become members unless their employment is
regular and continuous and will extend for more th~;n oneyear
"end requires service for at least one-half the time
required of employees in the same group or class, serving
on a Pull-tide basis.'
I incline to the opinion that this language T~~ould operate to
exclude any person working less than half tine.
Practical considerations lead me to ask hots many such
employees there might be. If there were a very small number, the
probabilities are that their votes would not affect the decision
Erma.- Keeler, City Clerk
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June 12, 1945
to be reached materially, one way or the other, end certainly
no harm could be done in permitting them to vote. All other
things being equal, it would be much better to err on the side
of permitting tine vote than to run the chance of erring; on the
side of excluding them.
I wish you would call me wren you have read this
1 etter and let me know how many 'Mess than half-ti~ie~~ employees
there are.
Yours very truly,
Robert J. Sta
(MI-5211, sta-2102)
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June 8, 194.5.
:sir. Ro t;ert J. St<~hl
City Employees' Re ~irement Sy tera
113 City Hfill,
Loe 1,ngeles it:', C~+lif.
DeU.r Nr. ~tah1:
I ~2m seeking €~.dditiona.l ir;formetion
on the em~Ioyee election to ~artici~~,~te in the
St~.te Bmoloyees' z~~tiremer~t System...
In your opinion is ran employee eligible
to vote <ho ~~orks les$ than fifty percent nr who
hzs bEen emr,loyed less t:'~~.n six months:
A._+:?rPCi.~ting ~.n early re~1y*, I ;:gar
Y~u:rs very truly,
City Clerk.