HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-10-29• MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON
PARKS, RECREATION, EDUCATION AND YOUTH
October 29, 2012
CALL TO ORDER
The regu!ar meeting convened at 5:31 p.m. in the City Hall, 2nd floor conference room,
20 Civic Center Plaza, Santa Ana, California.
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Counci6 rnaGnbers Present
Michele Martinez (Chair);
Sal Tinajero
Vincent Sarmiento
Staff Present: Gerardo Mouet, PRCSA Executive Director; Jose Sandoval,
Chief Assistant City Attorney, Ron Ono, Administrative
Services Manager; Jenny Rios, Community Services
• Manager; Jose Perez, Community Services Supervisor;
Public Present Shane Barrows, Resident
Michelle Bretza, Pony Baseball
John Bretza, Pony Baseball
Carlos Nava, Pony Baseball
Gilbert Ochoa, Pony Baseball
Sulema Urquiza, Pony Baseball
Lori Elizalde, Pony Baseball
Raul Ortiz, Resident/Pony Baseball
Tony Zuniga, Pony Baseball
Eric Eckenwiler, Pony Baseball
Javier Ollevidos, Pony Baseball
Brandie Nava, Santa Ana Pony Baseball
Brett Franklin, Resident
Mark Mulkerin, Resident
Leon Raya, Resident
Julie Stroud, Resident
Glen Stroud, Resident
Ron Foster, Little League
Jorge Robles, SA Pony Baseball
Elsie Robles, SA Pony Baseball
Jessie Anguiano, Santiago Little League
• Jose Rivera, Santa Ana OCRBL
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• Henry Buenrostro, SA High School
Harvey Contreras, Valley Little League
Jaime Contreras, Valley Little League
Erasmo Ramirez, Segerstrom High School
Mike Jurado, Santiago Little League
Peter Zapata, Santiago Little League
Oscar Diaz, Valley Little League
• APPROVAL OF MINUTES
o Minutes of September 25, 2012 accepted as presented.
• PUBLIC COMMENTS:
o Tony Zuniga indicated he lived in Santa Ana and provided background on
why as a youngster he went to Tustin Pony League. At the time, Santa Ana
had no Pony League and he wanted a league to compete and improve his
skills.
o Eric Eckenwiler indicated he played in the Little League program, but went to
the Tustin Pony League because it was more competitive. Other cities around
Santa Ana have Pony League, whereas Santa Ana does not.
o Glen Stroud indicated he lives in Santa Ana by Riverview Park. He coached
Little League at Riverview Park, but is concerned that children across the
• river cannot play little league at Riverview. He supports the program changing
over to Pony League.
o Raul Ortiz indicated he was President for Valley Little League for two years.
He is not sure if Pony Baseball is the right thing, but supports the fact that he
has a choice.
o John Bretza spoke in favor of transitioning Little League to Pony League.
Pony League prepares players to real baseball and they are better equipped
to play baseball.
o Shane Barrows indicated his son is 6 years old and is here to gather
information and asked if there is an existing contract with Little League.
o Henry Buenrostro indicated he is the Head Coach for SA High School. The
high school has been losing games and players are leaving the district.
o Julie Stroud indicated the coaches are excited and are getting behind the
team, but players need to be better equipped. She supports the transition to
Pony League.
o Leon Raya indicated we need to look at the process to transition from Little
League to Pony League. Kids are not being recruited by Little League and
Pony League. It's Travel Ball where the kids are being recruited. He is in the
process of establishing a Travel ball League, but his goal is to recruit from
Santa Ana kids.
Councilmember Vince Sarmiento arrived at 5:50pm.
o Erasmo Ramirez indicated he is the Head Coach of Segerstrom High School.
• He has played professional baseball for over 10 years and later obtained his
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• teaching credentials. He played with Valley Little League and learned a lot,
but feels there is a problem since players are leaving to other city leagues.
We need to keep players here in Santa Ana. If we have a Pony League, kids
would play here and stay in the Santa Ana Unified School District.
o Jamie Contreras indicated he is a coach for Valley Little League. He is
concerned that kids are leaving, because we don't play year round. If baseball
is not allowed to play year round, kids will go to travel ball.
o Harvey Contreras indicated he is the President of Valley Little League. He
supports both the Little League and Pony League programs. We need to keep
kids in the baseball program. There are not enough fields in Santa Ana and
other sports have priority in September to December. Santa Ana has 39
fields and it is difficult to share the fields all year long.
o Mark Mulkein indicated he lives in Santa Ana and has seen kids play in
Northwest Little League and Pony League. The leagues have outreached to
the community. Little League provides recreational play and fairness. He has
talked to some of the residents and indicated the community supports the
transition to Pony League.
o Peter Zapata indicated he is President of Santiago Little League. Most
important is to teach the kids the fundamentals of the game. Pony needs to
run some clinics for each of the leagues. He has coached in both Pony and
Little League and indicated it boils down to how kids are being taught.
o Ron Foster of District 30 indicated right now there are 5 leagues and there is
• no Northwest Little League. It comes down to preference and the level of
coaching.
September 29, 2012 minutes approved as presented.
• NORTHWEST LITTLE LEAGUE PROPOSAL
o The Santa Ana Pony Baseball proposal was distributed to the PREY
Committee by Carlos Nava.
o Councilmember Tinajero indicated he has been part of both Little League and
Pony League. In Fountain Valley both Little League and Pony share a park.
Pony and Little League has different rules. Pony is strict on starting on time.
The average team per league is 6 teams, but the numbers have decreased to
1 or 2 teams per league. If players want to improve they have to go outside of
Santa Ana. Change is difficult. Little League has a great concept but need to
change with the times. We need to provide options for the kids to choose.
Need to have a park where all the fields are used by the league.
o Councilmember Sarmiento indicated he is in support for kids having options.
Kids have talent and need options to thrive and be successful. The basic
fundamental issues are: 1) Lack of fields; 2) Year round sports on the field;
and 3) the introduction of providing a new layer of options.
o Gerardo Mouet indicated staff prepared a handout and will be monitoring field
usage. At this point there is not a problem of providing the fields.
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• o Councilmember Sarmiento expressed concern of cost to the player. Indicated
we need to keep it affordable. Indicated we need to have a program for kids
to sharpen their competitive edge.
o Carlos Nava indicated Pony Baseball is set up as a non-profit organization
and has the proper insurances. Little League is a good establishment. The
cost is about the same and a scholarship program has been set up for kids
that cannot afford to play. Pony Baseball has been holding clinics for years.
Status quo is not working. Pony will be an asset to push kids to a higher level.
o Leon Raya asked about the process in which to transition from little league to
pony baseball. He also indicated extending the boundaries will not help since
all the fields are at maximum capacity.
o Gerardo Mouet replied fields need to be monitored to ensure fields are used
through the reservation process.
o Councilmember Sarmiento requested staff to balance the use of the fields. If
boundary's changes can fields be shared or adjusted based on the change?
o Ron Foster indicated currently there is no Northwest Little League
organization. The boundaries would have to shift.
o Councilmember Tinajero indicated he does not want Northwest Little League
to be targeted to move. The reason Santiago Little League is increasing is
because of the leadership. He recommended staff monitor the use of
Riverview Park ball fields by Pony Baseball and report back in one year.
o Councilmember Martinez indicated she has experience growing up with the
• various leagues and was disappointed when she reached high school. Her
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Some residents just want to play recreational ball and not necessarily
competitive play. Staff is currently working on a master joint use agreement
with the school district to make additional field's available afterschool. We
don't want children to miss opportunities to succeed. Santa Ana is a young
city and needs fields for youth. She asked the leagues to provide options to
select healthy snacks at the concession stand.
o RECOMMENDATION:
• PREY approved Pony Baseball to use Riverview Park ball field
on a 6 month trial basis and staff to report back to PREY on field
usage.
• STAFF UPDATE
o Gerardo Mouet provided an update on pending agenda items requested by
PREY and provided a list of 11 items.
o Councilmember Martinez recommended the following items for the next
agenda:
¦ CDBG FY 13-14 Priority Setting
• Update on Parks and Recreation Agency Budget for FY 13/14.
• Update of HEAL Resolution
• Amendment Update on Play Rules for Non Organized Sports
• Zoo RFP Update
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• o Next meeting is tentatively scheduled for January 28, 2013. Staff will check if
the January 28th date will work for the Council Committee and staff.
COMMITTEE MEMBER COMMENTS
o Councilmember Tinajero thanked everyone for attending and clarified for the
audience that PREY is recommending a 6 month trial for Pony baseball and
requested staff to obtain usage numbers.
o Councilmember Sarmiento thanked everyone for attending and indicated he
is looking forward to implementing a better system of providing options for the
kids.
o Councilmember Martinez thanked everyone for attending and reminded the
leagues to provide healthy choices in the snack bar.
ADJOURNED: 7:00 p.m.
• Gerardo Mouet
Executive Director,
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