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September 15, 2015
City Council Meeting
Correspondence
85A - CONSIDER OPTIONS FOR FLYING THE RAINBOW FLAG AT CITY HALL
Date of Semler/Representative Agency
Co.rresp.
In support of flying flag
1
mvgeffen@yahoo,com
2
Audrey Prosser
3
Roman Beltran and Augustin Gaytan
Yvonne Flores
6
Gary and Loretta Graham
Julie Humphreys
7
Chela Banuelos
Sean Coolidge
9
Matt Melendrez
ftp
Rom Lozares
In opposition of flying flag
1
Corinne Schlott
2
Gilbert Bailey
3
Sandy V. Munoz
Betty Robinson
6
Janet Stapleton
6
Grinwadk Sanchez
7
Mark Ferrel
Michael Jones
9
Ms. Masonis
10,
George & Linda Salata
11
Job3313@aol.com
12
Kathy Troxel
13
Linda Williams
14
Karen Knapp
16
Michael Chartier
16
William Martin Jr.
17
Sheri Elliott
18
Mary Ann Ludwig
18
Ruth Rapp
8
Gustavo Contreras
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21 Edward & Diane West
22 David Mitchell
23 Christi Jaeger
24 Sean Thomas
25 Terri Shedd
26 Lenore Powell
27 Barbie Nellesen
23 Ann Coil
29 John Jaeger
30 Lucy Burns
311 Rachel Parks
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Mitre -(Ramirez, Norma
From:
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 3:43 PM
To: eCommeint
Subject: Support for 85a
Categories: Correspondence
! woulid hove to seethe rainbow flag fly' in my hometown of Santa Ana Call!
Sent from my iPhone
Mitre -Ramirez, Norma
From
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 4:44 PM
To: eComment
Subject: Agenda tem 85-A Sept 15th
Categories: Correspondence
Dear Mlayor, City Council Members, City Manager,
As of the last three years, I have became a frequent visitor to downtown Santa Ana. I was drawn there by the
vibrant LGBT community. While I appreciate what the City has done with Art and I do support artist, I may not
have made a special trip to spend my money in Santa Ana. I certainly would not have visited as frequently. You
have done a great job of embracing diversity which has made your City a destination for many of my f'iriiends. I
urge you to continue inviting those of ius who have been attracted to your City by your welcoming of the LGBT
community by approving the 85-A on the agenda.
Sincerely,
Audrey Prosser
Sent from my iPad
Mitre -Ramirez, Norma
From: Roman Beltran <
Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2015 5:35 PIA
To: eCornment
Subject: Agenda item 85A
Categories: Correspondence
Hi my name is Roman Beltran and I been a resident of Santa Ana for the las 18 years. My husband and I
purchased a property in Downtown because Santa Ana has always proven to be one of the most progressive
cities in Orange County and as a gay couple we feel safe living in SA.
The reason for my email is to show support for agenda item 85A, flying the rainbow flag at city Hall
I hope: you receive my email and cosider passing the bill
Sincerely
Roman Beltran and Agustin Gaytan
Sentoin my mobile device.
Please excuse grammar, spelling, etc.
Huizar, Maria
From: Yvonne Flores <
Sent: Saturday, September 12,2O157:28PK4
To: Huizar, Maria
Subject: lsupport agenda Item D5A
Dear Mayor Miguel Pu|idnand CnuncUnmermberMichele Martinez,
Myname isYvonne Flores, and |omaren�ildimtandbuo|nensowner[nthedtwmfSantaAna.
I am wr,iting to you to voice my support for flying the Rainbow Flag over Santa,Ana City Hall and agenda Item 85A.
| would love for the city ofSanta Ana tobecome aleader |nlove, ucoeptance�, and equality for all people bvsending this
very strong message of inclusion — let's fly, the Rainbow Flag over Santa Ana City Hall by approving agenda Item, 85A.
YvmnmeFl»res
Gallery 211
Realtor, ARMm,Notary PubUc
CalBre: 01221486
Wostdiff Properties
211N.Sycamore St
Santa Ana, [A 92701
Phone: (714)%15'74Z1
Fax: (71,4) 242-9992
Mitre -Ramirez, Norma
From:
Sent: Saturdays September 12, 2015 7:22 PM
To: eComment
Subject: Agenda item 85A
Categories: Correspondence
My husband are both 68 years old, and we have been residents of Santa Ana since 1997. In fact, my husband was born
here in 1947. We support equal rights for all peoples and believe that the time has come to fly this flag. We urge you to
vote YES.
Most siincerely,
Gary & Loretta Graham
Mitre -Ramirez, Norma
From:
Sent: Saturday,, September 12, 2015 9:19 PM
To: eCommeint
Subject: Please Fly Rainbow Flag
Categories: Correspondence
I have lived in Santa Ana for 28 years. l heartily support the recommendation to fly the rainbow flag near city hall. "The
rainbow flag sends a message of Inclusion that will benefit everyone in Santa Ana. Let's wave that
banner of love and acceptance every day of the year.".
Thank you,
Julie Humphreys
Mitre -Ramirez, Norma
From: Chela Bainuelos <
Sent Saturday, September 12, 2015 9:30 PM
To: eCommeint
Subject: Rainbow (Flag
Categories: Correspondence
Greetings,
am a (business owner in Santa Ana, and I am in support to flying the Rainbow Flag at City Hail, Agenda item
#85A.
As a business owner & resident of Santa Ana, I am very proud of our focal support and progress to be
inclusive! We have all come so far to be productive and supportive of all citizens of Santa Ana. Bravo! I!
Respectfully,
Chefa IBahuelos
Amorvriiejo Art
Mitre -Ramirez, Norma
From:. Sean Coolidge <
Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2015 11;10 AM
To: eCommient
Cc: GNFFS'INA
Subject: Agenda Item 85A - Rainbow Flag at City mall
Categories: Correspondence
Show "em we're the most progressive city Ibehind the "Orange Curtain".
Do it:)
Thank you i
Sean. Coolidge
e. (619) 417-9726 1 o. (657) 210-1060
Mitre -Ramirez, Norma
From: matt melendrez <
Sent Monday, September 14, 2015 12:53 AM
To: eComni
Subject: Support agenda 85A -Rainbow Flag
Categories: Correspondence
To whom it may concern,
My name is Matthew, I am a resident of Santa Ana, but I do consider it my home. My great-grandparents resided in Santa Ana back lien the
1920s. Growing up my grandparents lived off Sristoll street, it was during the summer months I would spend time at their home. It was also
when I fell !in love with the City of Santa Ana. We in Orange County are a mixture of people, some coming to reside here from far off (places,
others not so far. Santa Ana is in my opinion the heart of the county. We want to show that everyone is welcome here. To me the rainbow
flag symbolizes more than just its support for the LEST community, it shows we are welcomling of people from all walks of life. As a Queer
Latina, I feel most welcome to shop, dine, spend) imy time in Santa Ana. It's our city and I want it to reflect all of us who love Santa Aina.
Mitre -Ramirez, Norma
From: romuladn'97 <
Sent Monday, September 14, 2015 1:11 PM
To: eComment
Subject: Rainbow flag
Categories: Correspondence
I am long time resident of the city of Santa Ana And military veteran who served our country honorably so we
can enjoy the freedom that we have. I strongly support that the city of Santa Ana should set an example in
orange County who will be the first city to fly the rainbow flag at the city hall. Rom Lozares who is a resident
of Morrison park neighborhood. Thank you.
Sent from my T -Mobile 4G LTE Device
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From: Corinne Schlott
Seat: Monday, August 1.0, 201.5 5,49:54 PM (UTC -08;00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: ?City Council
Subject: Gay Flag
I am firmly opposed to flying the rainbow flag along with the US Flag and the State Flag at the
Civic Center. I feel this diminishes the importance of the other two flags. The councilperson
who has a gay relative should withdraw his request. If this were allowed to happen at what point
would it stop. I am sure there are other organizations that would make the same request. It
sends an unacceptable message .and creates a precedent that we would have to live with.
Corinne Schlott
From: Gilbert Bailey
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 '8:47:43 PM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: ]City Council; Pulido, Miguel; Sarmiento, Vince; Martinez, Michele,; Amezcua, Angelica;
dbenvides(&santa-ana.org; Reyna, Roman; Tinajero, Sal
Subject: The Rainbow Flag at City Hall
It is my understanding that Councilman Tinajero has initiated a proposal to permanently fly the
rainbow flag, the symbol of gay (pride, in front of the Santa Ana City Hall. This is an interesting
initiative since non-governmental flags typically are not flown on governmental
properties. While some might consider it a popular idea to show support for the Gay and
Lesbian community, I might suggest also including an MIA flag to show our commitment not to
forget those still missing in action. A Boy Scout and Girl Scout flag probably should also be
included; they certainly would not be controversial and are honorable organizations worthy of
our support. There are no doubt far more Santa Ana citizens represented by AFL-CIO than the
Gay Pride flag. Therefore an ATFL -CIO flag probably should be included on our city's flag
poles. Rotary and/or Elks flags should be flown to show our support and appreciation of the
many services these organizations have provided to the citizens of Santa Ana. Hey, who would)
object to us including an Angels and Ducks flags!
Wait a minute! How tall is this flag pole, or how many poles are there? Who's idea was it to
start flying special interest flags over government buildings? I thought the Confederate Flag
debate in South Carolina taught us that flags flown on government buildings ought not to be in
preference or exclusion of one group or another. Does the fact that the son of one of our
councilmen is gay justify why we would consider starting such a tradition at this point? The
only flags flown over our Santa Ana City Hall should be the flags of The United States of
America, The State of California, The County of Orange, and The City of Santa Ana; all
government agencies under which we reside.
If Councilman Tinajero would Iliike to show support for his gay son, he should fly the rainbow
flag in front of his own house; not ask his neighbors to fly it, or ask that it be flown over the
house of our city.
Gilbert Bailey
Santa Ana resident
From: Sandy Munoz <
Date: July 31, 2015 at 9:42:27 PM PDT
To: <inpulidosanta-ana.org>, <vsarmiento(cr7santa-ana.org>, <ninlartinez a santa-ana.org>,
<aarnezcuagsanta-ana.or >, <dbenvidesgsanta-ana.org>, <rreyna@santa-ana.org>,
stinaj eros Santa- ana. org>
Subject: Flags Flying at Government Facilities
There is no doubt that the Flag of the United States of America should be flown proudly anywhere in this
country. Each state should be allowed to fly the state flag under the flag or our country as is proper. City
flags should be displayed properly and in this order also. Sexual orientation flags have no place on a
government facility flag pole, building or grounds.
Sexual orientation and Gay Pride is definitely not appropriate for government buildings. Should a
"straight" sexual orientation flags Ibe flown? We do not display religious flags, foreign country flags (such
as Mexico and Vietnam), sports themes, battle flags and so forth as the decisions to fly would be based
on history, opinions and beliefs of an individual person, such as Mr. T'inajero's relationship with gay pride.
Mr. Tinajero may be proud of his son, but why can't those of us with "''straight" sons have a flag flown too?
Mr. Tinajero, your proposition makes no sense. Most of us understand the fact that gay pride is not a
"'flag waving" act, but is a persona'I issue. Fly the rainbow flag? No. Mr.Tinajero, fly the rainbow flag at
your own house and leave the puilbiilc buildings to the traditional flags or our country.
From a 50 Year Santa Ana Resident,
Sandy V. Munoz
From: Betty Robinson <
Date: July 30, 2015 at 9:02:42 PM PDT
To: "inpulido e,santa-ana.org" <tnPulido@santa-ana.or >
Subject: Rainbow flag
Reply -To: Betty Robinson < omebear att.net>
1Mayor Pulido,
II understand there will be a city council vote on whether to
(permanently fly a rainbow flag over City Hall. The LGBT
group is estimated) to be 3 to 10% of the population. Since
when should a government entity favor one group over
any other? This especially matters when you know there
would be a great deal of controversy. Iln this day and age,
we don't need to seek disharmony and discord.
(Respectfully,
(Betty Robinson
From: Janet Stapleton
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 2:33:16 PM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: !City Council
Subject: Gay Flag
Members of the City Council,.
With all due respect to each and everyone of you, the issue of putting the gay rainbow flag over:
the city hall along with our nations flag and state flag is not an issue that is of major importance
to the citizens of Santa Ana. I understand that one of the councilman's son is gay but what does
that have to do with running our city. I am sure that numerous people could come up with flags
that they felt should be flown as well. The councilman admitted it was personal. So because he is
a city councilman he should be able to do this? If residents want the flag flown they have the
right to hang one in their front yard along with any other flag they wish to hang.
]Please say no.
Thank You
Janet Stapleton
From:
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 9.15:13 AM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: !City Council; davidswhitley cox.net; bgMlr70Catgmail.com
Subject: no gay flag
Santa Ana elected officials may not use their office to promote PERSONAL AGENDA... WHATEVER IT
II'w9AY BE,
The majority of Americans reject the "rainbow" flag display and demand no such flag be used in SA or
any other official location in the State.
The American flag represents ALL -...NO NEED FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
THANKS
Grinwadk Sanchez
Santa Ana
From: mark ferrel
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 201 4:46:17 PM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: !City Council
Subject: gay flag
This whole idea is ridiculous. Gay people aren't looking for recognition here they are looking for
preferred treatment.
The flags are four our city state and federal flags Not sexual preference. If you pass it I want a
flag for straight men and women up there as well.
Tell Tinajero to tell his son to keep sex in the bedroom like the rest of us. I don't want to know
what his son prefers to do, don't care, it's none of my or anyones business.
I tell everyone who talks about their sex life to shut up and keep it private. Gay people should be
like everyone else and do the same thing.
From: michael jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 201514:07:55 PM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: !City Council
Subject: No on Gay Pride Flag,
1 would like to voice my opinion on the plan that i've heard to flag a gay pride rainbow flag in
front of city hall.
This should not be done.
M Jones
Michael Jones
1905 E Buffalo Ave
Santa Ana, CA 92705
From: Lorena <
Date: July 29, 2015 at 2:05:45 PM PDT
To: "mpulidogsanta-ana.org" <rnpulido cr,santa-ana.org>
Subject: Please fly the American flag, only.
Dear Mayor Miguel Pulido-
I am asking that you not support the display of the rainbow flag on public buildings. Flying the
rainbow flag would open the door to other special interest groups demanding that they be
represented. If we've leaned anything from the confederate flag debate in South Carolina, it is
that a flag flown on government buildings ought not to be in preferred to or exclusion of one
group or another.
Please fly the American flag, only. Out of one, many. The American. flag represents the nation.
and the American people, most people have no desire to know what goes on in anyone's
bedroom.
Please focus on improving the city of Santa Ana and the lives of your constituents.
Ms. Masonis
Froin: Linda Salata
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 :53:32 PM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Tithe (US & Cauda)
To: !City Council
'Subject: Flag
We DO NOT support the display of the Gay Pride flag over City Hall.
George Salata
Linda Salata
Sent from my iPhone
From: <tob3313 a,aol.com>
Hate: July 29, 2015 at 12:09:42 PM PDT
To: <mpulidogsanta-ana.or >
Subject: STOP GAY FLAG IN FRONT OF CITY HALL IN SANTA ANA!
From: <
]Date: July 28, 2015 at 2:32:52 Pill PDT
To: <1npulido cr,santa-ana.org>
subject: Please No Rainbow Flag
FPlease do not display the rainbow flag.
Thank You.
lathy Troxel
From:
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 12'.:.22:55 PM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (iUS & Canada)
To: !City Council
Subject: Rainbow flag
Raising such a symbol over City IHlall is not appropriate. Shame on you!
Linda Williams
From: Karen Knapp
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 10:57:36 PM (UTC-08:OO) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: ?City Council
Subject: The rainbow flag
As a citizen of Santa Ana I do not support the rainbow flag flying next to the American Flag. at
city hall. This is unbelievable.
Do you have any idea how many other flags in this country would be far more appropriate than
one based on sexuality. This idea is not even appropriate. The next thing you will want to do is
make this a sanctuary city.. Have you learned nothing from the action on the confederate flag.
Why do politicians constantly
want to enact their own beliefs for their own gain. As the county seat which is here to
represent the masses of Orange
County: could council do something constructive like solving the homeless situation that is
parked right in Civic Center.
Gay pride vs. homeless. Homeless is a life style as well. Poverty is a life style, Maybe you
could design a flag for these
life styles.
'hat about the men and women who have gone off to war. Do you have these flags flying at city
Hall?
I am a concerned citizen of this country and this city.
Karen Knapp
From: chartier[mailto:michaelchartier777@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 1:25 AM
To: Pulido, Miguel
Cc: Sarmiento, Vince; Martinez, Michele; Amezcua, Angelica; dbenvides c Santa-ana.orq; Reyna, Roman;
Tinajero, Sal; Jay Sekulow Chief Counsel; Mayor Marsha McLean, sherit f@ocsd.ara; US Senator Barbara
(Boxer; US Senator Dianne Feinstein
Subject: "Flag" Challenge to Sanaa Ana, CA Civil Power Oath Takers
TO: Mayor Miguel Pulido: mluludoCa)_santa-ana.orq
Mayor Pro Tem Vincent Sarmiento: vsarmiento@santa gng.oro
Councilwoman Michele Martinez: mmartinezasanta-ana.org
Councilwoman Angelica Amezcua: aamezcua santa-ana.oi
Councilman David Benavides: dbenvides@santa-ana.or
Councilman Roman Reyna: rre n�a@santa-ana.ora
Councilman Sal Tinajero*: stinaiero@santa-ana.org
FROM: Michael Chartier
RE: Councilman Tinajero's "rainbow flag" proposal.
I received an e-mail today revealing Sana Ana City Councilman T'iiinajero's "rainbow flag"
proposal and pending vote 9/1/15.
It is to that end that I am e -mailing you as "oath takers" sworn/affirmed to defend/uphold both
our U.S. & CA Constitutions.
To preface all of my comments, allow me to cite the most recent/relevant example about why,
"'flying colors" on state & federal grounds is so important to remain uniformly practiced in
complete compliance with both our U.S. & CA Constitutions; namely: the South Carolina
government's removal (ceremonial) of the purported "Confederate" flag from statehouse
grounds. That decision to remove the "3rd" flag restored proper "flag flying" order to S.C. by
allowing ONLY our U.S. & S.C. State flags to be flown from the S.C. Capital, with the U.S. flag
always at the top & State flag below, inferior. No other flags are to be flown out of respect to
our nation & states' symbols that unite U.S, as Americans first/foremost who coincidentally
remain FREE & sovereign states that comprise the same union of states balancing federal &
states' rights.
Please note that the ONLY colors that represent all of U.S.; namely: RED, WHITE, & BLUE have
an official FLAG CODE to be conformed to & even govt. grounds guidelines. U.S. Sen. Barbara
Boxer's web page affirms this by stating the following:
"'Every year, an average of more than 100,000 flags are flown over the U.S. Capitol at the
request of Members of Congress. The tradition began in 1937, and is used to commemorate
birthdays, anniversaries, the work of civic organizations and various other special
occasions." (emphasis mine)
""Please note the following rules and information when ordering) flags to be flown over the U.S.
capitol:
Only the official 50 -star U.S. flag or a past official U.S. flag will be
flown (no state
flags permitted). All flags must be made in the United States."
htt www.aoc. ov sites default files documents basic-
gage/Flag Flying Guidelines.pdf
Our original de facto national motto of "Out of many, one" or IE Pluribus Unum UNITED U.S, all
under our nation's colors emblazoned on Old Glory; namely: RED, WHITE, & BLUE. 1956 saw
the official adoption of "In God We Trust" as our current U.S. Motto. Neither divides &
conquers using class, sexual orientation, etc, as that would promote an artificially
superimposed tier of "group"rights, and our founders idea of a Constitutional Republic is
rooted & grounded in INDIVIDUAL rights that unite U.S. as a sovereign nation first/foremost
that reveres Almighty God as our ultimate Sovereign.
Further, we are all part of the human race, which in both our "Declaration of Independence" &
states' constitution preambles, iincluding CA, honor God as our Creator and Almighty at the
outset as a way of acknowledging our dependence upon God for securing said freedom &
perpetuating its blessings to future generations. Fifty of our founding fathers who were
members of the Constitution al Convention were Christians of various Protestant
Denominations, while a few were deists & a couple Roman Catholic. Our nation did not want
the state & church co -mingled) as an official state church, because "religious freedom" was
precisely why our earliest American settlers fled Europe; namely: Christian persecution.
The "moral majority" was, however, decidedly of one faith; namely: Christian. That is our true
country's heritage, secular humanistic & atheistic arguments seek to revise/rewrite our nation"s
rich religious heritage, but the truth is as Jesus said what sets U.S. free.
John Adams, our second president, warned U.S. twice, first by (promulgating, "Statesmen, my
dear Sir, may plan and speculate for Liberty, but it is Religion and Morality alone, which can
establish the Principles upon which Freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free
Constitution is pure Virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure
than they have it now, They may change their Rulers and the forms of Government, but they
will not obtain a lasting Liberty, 'They will only exchange Tyrants and Tyrannies." Letter to
Zabdiel Adams (21 June 1776) And,
"Because we have no government, armed with power, capable of contending with human
passions, unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambitiioink revenge and licentiousness
would break the strongest cords of our Constitution, as a whadlbe goes through a net. Our
Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the
government of any other. Oaths in this country are as yet universally considered as sacred
obligations. That which you have taken, and so solemnly repeated on that venerable ground, is
an ample pledge of your sincerity and devotion to your country and its government." Letter to
the Officers of the First Brigade of the Third Division of the Milliitia of Massachusetts, 11 October
1798, in Revolutionary Services and Civil Life of General William Hull (New York, 1848), pp 265-
6. https://en.wikiguote.orgLwiki%j_ohn Adams
Let U.S. not mock God further iin America by paying mere lip service to our national motto, "In
God We Trust" while coincidentally & hypocritically deceiving ouirselves with the narcissistic &.
nauseating notion that if Santa Ana's oath takers take it upon themselves to approve of
endorsing the purloining & corrupting of the RAINBOW, God's symbol to all of us that He
promised to never again flood the earth, for publicly & officially endorsing homosexuality,
which God both condemns as an abomination in the Old Testament & as lawlessness in the
New Testament, by flying this stolen, perverted "rainbow flag" of the LGBTQcult, how it could
be construed as anything but adding insult to injury by flipping God off with this puffed -up -
with -pride purloined rainbow to be adopted as part of the offiic!ial CA & U.S. colors on official
government properties. The height of hubris & the depth of depravity. That's what this affront
to all of U.S, is & I take the utmost umbrage with Councilman Tiinajero's proposal & strenuously
object that it is not only patently offensive to me, but to American Veterans who, like my
deceased father, know all too well the price that they paid Us now being paid in BLOOD, that
only bleeds RED mind you, so that pathetic proposals like this could even come up for
consideration in CA & the U.S.
Furthermore, it would violate the 1st Amendment establishment clause as is already being
done in Cochran, GA (see link below). Two wrongs, however, don't make it right. As much as I
am a Christian, I do not want CA or my CA City Hall dictating to me what orthodoxy or religion.
must look like, whether it is the Christian Flag (see U.S. origin iinfo. & link below) or the LGBTQ
cult's purloined & perverted "rainbow flag" that Santa Ana Councilman Tinajero touts as worthy
of this honor.
''"The Christian flag is one of the oldest unchanged flags in the world. It was conceived at
Brighton Chapel, Coney Island, New York, Sunday, September 26, 1897, and was
presented in its present form the following Sunday by its originator. Call it chance, or
providence, serendipity, or the plan of God, on that day, the Christian flag was born.
The white on the flag represents purity and peace. The blue stands for faithfulness,
truth, and sincerity. Red, of course, is the color of sacrifice, in this case calling to mind
the blood shed by Christ on Calvary, represented by the cross. The first pledge to the
Christian flag was written by Methodist pastor Lynn Harold Hough in 1908.
"I pledge allegiance to the Christian Flag and to the Savior for whose kingdom it stands.
One brotherhood, uniting all mankind, in service and love."
Ihttp://www.auburn.edu/-allenkc/chrflag.html
However, if done on private property (see link below), that is an entirely different
story. Nobody should be able to tell Councilman Tinajero that the can't fly the "rainbow flag" on
his private property, because it''s his property. The same argument can be made in defense of
the two Shelby, N.C. pastors who did just that to celebrate Independence Day by flying the
Christian flag above the U.S. flag to demonstrate what "One Nation Under God" looks like on
church property.
Please join me in abandoning & voting against this preposterous proposal of Santa Ana
Councilman Tinajero's to fly the "'rainbow flag" above, below, contiguous to, or at all on official
Santa Ana City Hall government property as it is a direct violatiioin of your oath of office to
defend & uphold the constitutions of the USA & CA, esp. the 1st Amendment, as well as an
affront to American Veterans (Active, Retired) & their families who proudly served or are
serving U.S. now under oath & under the only colors that matter to U.S. as a sovereign nation ;
namely: RED, WHITE, & BLUE, notwithstanding the fact that those same three colors comprise
the Christian Flag, and because the RAINBOW cannot be compatible with what God condemns
as an abomination & lawlessness; namely: homosexuality, since the same Almighty God &
Creator honored at the beginning of our "Declaration of Independence" & preamble to states`
constitutions, including CA's, created the RAINBOW, NOT to promote prurient perversions of
natural affection, but as a sign lin the sky that never again wound the earth be devastated by a
flood, & because unlike the U.S. & CA flag that unite U.S. as 1 enation & 1 state, this "rainbow
flag" does nothing but "divide" 'U.S. by sexual orientation just like the Confederate flag in S.C.
divided U.S. by prejudice. Vote no.
"'Then God said to Noah and to his sons with him: 91 now establish my covenant with you and
with your descendants after you,10and with every living creature that was with you—the birds,
the livestock and all the wildanimals, all those that came out of the ark with you—every living
creature on earth. 111 establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be destroyed by
the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth."
1122And God said, "This is the sign of the covenant I am making (between me and you and every
living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: 131 have set my rainbow in the
clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth. 14Whenever I bring
clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, 151 will remember my covenant
between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become
a flood to destroy all life. 16Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and
remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living, creatures of every kind on the
earth." 17So God said to Noah,
"This is the sign of the covenant I have established between me and all life on the
earth." GENESIS 9:8-17
""You shall not lie with a man, as with a woman: it is abomination." LEVITICUS 18:22
"'If a man also lies with a man, as he lies with a woman, both of'them have committed an
abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." LEVITICUS
20:13
"But we know that the Law is ;good, if one uses it lawfully, 9realliizing the fact that law is not
made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly andl
sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers
10and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever
else is contrary to sound teaching..." I TIMOTHY 1:8-10 (emphasis mine)
May God, our Creator, the Almighty, grant each of you the wisdom to know how to best
proceed next & the virtue to do it.
Respectfully submitted this 28th of July, 2015,
MAC
From: "william martin, jr" <
]date: July 27, 2015 at 9:54:43 P`M PDT
To: "M u� lido cgc Santa-ana.org," <>npulido a,santa-ana.org>
subject: Rainbow flag over C''ity Hall concern & request
Reply -To: "william martin, jr" <win jr- architect(katt. net>
Dear Mayor Miguel Pulido,
The Confederate flag is associated with discriminatory tenants and is offensive to many
citizens. President Obama claims this as well. The rainbow flag is at least as offensive to
many citizens for several reasoins, including cultural, religious, scientific, etcetera.
In order to retain community iPeace and avoid discriminatory sentiments, I politely ask
to restrict flying flags over all government buildings to those of our nation, state, and city
flags only.
Sincerely,
WILLIAM MARTIN JR ARCHITECT
0213.446.7824
From: Sheri Elliott <
?ate: July 27, 2015 at 9:46:00 P'M PDT
To: "mpulido cgsanta-ana.or " <inyulido9santa-ana.org>
Subject: leo-Gay pride flag
Reply -To: Sheri Elliott <pacbell.net>
Please do not fly this flag at City Hall. God gave us the
rainbow to remind us that He would never flood the earth
again.
Thank you,
Sheri Elliott
From: MaryAnn Ludwig [
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 8:38 PM
To: Pulldo, Miguel
Slubject: dying the Rainbow Flag)
Mr. Mayor,
Cao not dishonor Santa Ana by flying the homosexual flag as a permanent addition to City Hall. This is absolutely the wrong thing to do. we.
do not honor individual groups of people other than to fly the flags at half-staff when they die or are killed. we fly the flags of America and of
the State to honor all people. Our allegiance is not to homosexuality, but to the State of California and to the United States of America. we
celebrate our state, our country and the city byflying the appropriate flags.
The rainbow was given to the world as a token of the covenant between God and every living creature on the Earth that God would never
again destroy the world by flood. His reason for destroying the world by flood was because of the sinfulness, wickedness and violence.
Thank your for your attention,
Diary Ann Ludwig
maryannludwiu aAatt.net
From: Ruth Rapp
�Fent: Monday, July 27, 2015 4:09:18 PM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: Kity Council
�Subject: "Gay Flag"
I do NOT live in Santa Ana, nor do ',I live in Orange County, but I live in Los Angeles County, and I would"
be embarrassed beyond control IF the City of Santa Ana had the "gay flag" flown in front of the City Hall.
(I didn't even know they had a "gay flag"!) Yes, I have gay friends and why do we have to obviously point
to them as being "gay" when they acre like everyone else. I accept my gay friends as individuals and
nothing more. What an embarrassment to them!
Whoever has a son who is "gay" has a problem and should NOT make his problem that of everyone
elses!
From: gustavo contreras <
Date: July 22, 2015 at 9:31:26 IPM PDT
To: <m up lido a,santa-ana.org>
Subject: Rainbow flag vote
Hello Mayor Pulido,
II just wanted to find out how you are leaning on this matter. With all that is going on in this city
II would think that Mr Tinajero has better things to do with our city council's time than to have
them waste time on this matter. As far as I am concerned he can fly the flag all he wants at his
home. His argument is that it is personal for him because of his son being gay. I say good for
him, so don't force your beliefs on the rest of us who don't see things your way. Hoping that
the council has better things to do. Thank you for your time.
Gustavo Contreras
From: Diane West <
Date: July 22, 2015 at 8 ;13 02 PM PDT
To: <lnpulido e,santa-ana.org>
Subject: rainbow flag
]Dear Mayor Pulido, We are long tune residents in Santa Ana. We oppose the city having a gay
rainbow flag. Besides being against our beliefs it is not necessary and not cost efficient. Thank
you, Edward and Diane West
From: David Mitchell <
Date: July 21, 2015 at 2:23:22 PM PDT
To: <rnpulidoksanta-ana.or >
Subject: A Flag proposal from. David Mitchell of Calvary Church in Santa Ana
Mayor Pulido
As you consider your new proposal for the rainbow flag, I would like to offer a perspective and then a positive
alternative suggestion which I believe can unite, not divide, our community.
First, a perspective.
I am David Mitchell, Senior Pastor of Calvary Church of Santa Ana. I was recently quoted in the Register
regarding the rainbow flag proposal., I also serve as a chaplain with the SAPD and offer the invocation at your
council meetings every few months. You probably do not know me, but I want to assure you that I seek the
same compassionate community that you do.
I have served at Calvary Church for 20 years. Our church has existed in Santa Ana for over 84 years. We have
an emphasis to reach out to Santa Ana residents through the generosity of our congregation of 2500 people.
We give over $100,000 each year to assist those in the midst of financial challenge with food, shelter, clothing
and medical needs. We have an annual drive to collect backpacks and supplies for students in the public
schools. We partnered with six other: Santa Ana churches to establish the `Love Santa Ana" initiative, reaching
out to low income neighborhoods through painting projects, clean-up days, and street fairs. We offer ongoing
volunteer opportunities with our local non-profit partnerships in the community, helping the homeless,
prisoners, youth with special needs, orphaned and foster children, victims of domestic violence, and widows. A
highlight is our partnership with the OC Rescue Mission providing the Hurtt Family Health Clinic office space
in the Heritage Medical Building on our campus. Through this we help provide medical assistance to the poor
and other people underserved with their medical needs. These are just some of the ways we try to make a
positive impact to strengthen our community.
'Second, a proposal.
I fear a negative and divisive reaction to the rainbow flag proposition, I still recall the pro -immigration protest
in which the Mexican flag was waved to generate support. When other residents saw that flag, there was a
strong resentment from those who had not expressed their opinion on that issue before. I fear more reaction
like that on this issue that will pit groups of people against each other. This would be counterproductive to the
goal of an inclusive and accepting community,
My proposal is to commission a new flag for Santa Ana. It should be a flag that can represent the diverse
nature of our community. I would love it to be anchored in the concept of pursuing life, liberty and the pursuit
of happiness from our historic Declaration of Independence. Each of us apply those words in different and
varied ways, but we all can rally around this fundamental truth of our country. Expressing pride in our
community is a worthy pursuit because I believe our best days are ahead of us. This kind of flag would prevent
other groups that believe they deserve a flag to represent their viewpoint or issues from lobbying each of you
to support them. Also, I strongly believe that each councilmember should represent all the people in their
district and not use it as a platform for a personal agenda.
Please consider commissioning a new flag. It could even be a contest with a reward for the winner. I believe
this proposal would help unite our community and make us stronger.
Thank you,
David Mitchell
Calvary Church of Santa Ana
1010 N. Tustin Ave, Santa Ana, CA 92705
7'14-973-4800 x343
dmitchell(&, calvarylife. ora
From: Christi Jaeger <
Date: July 21, 2015 at 6:29:40 AM PDT
To: "mpulido cr,santa-ana.org" <mpulidog,santa-ana.org>, "vsarmiez-ito cgsanta-an.a.org"
<vsanniento@santa-ana.org>, "imnartinez c@santa-ana.org" <nImartinez@santa-ana.or >,
"dbenavidesnsanta-ana.org" <dbenavides santa-ana.or >, "rreyna r�santa ana.org"
<!Ie a santa-ana.or >
Subject: NO GAY FLAG!
Reply -To: Christi Jaeger <christiIj eger@yahoo.com>
Citizens, not to mention children, of Santa Ana, deserve
better than the constant and ongoing deluge of
(propaganda from homosexuals.
What people did in their own bedrooms used to be private
and discreet.
The militant homosexual community has turned this
around to be demanding, angry, and petulant. Please
keep this sickening debate out of
city council chambers. I want better than this for my
grandchildren.
Christi Jaeger
From: <
Date: July 20, 2015 at 8:47:49, PM PDT
To: <=ulido t�santa-ana.or >
Cc: <dan.long cr miscoaudit.net>
Subject: RAINBOW PRIDE. FLAG
Your Honor,
My name is Sean Thomas and although I am not a resident of Santa Ana, it is one of my favorite cities
and one I visit often in my duties with a high profile OC non-profit organization.
First let me say that I am openly gay. My spouse and I have been together for 43 years. We have been
married for six years. Both of us have been involved in fighting for equality for all people for four decades.
I was involved in the civil rights movement of the 1960's while a student at the University of Maryland.
I am writing to you to say ....... ..1 doin't need a Rainbow flag to fly at City Hall ...... any city hall. I and all my
brothers and sisters both gay and straight have a flag that flies over every city hall in this nation...... it is
red , white and blue and it is filled with stars and strips. We are not a separate group of people;
segregated from the rest of America. While the rainbow flag is a nice symbol of a movement it does not
rise to the level of being flown to show inclusion., ....... LGBT people are included and we are no less
Americans.
if Councilman Tinajero and his son think that our efforts for equality have ended with the Supreme Court
ruling on marriage they are mistaken. Not until we have employment (protection in the 39 States where
being gay can be cause for termiiinabon or denial of housing, not until we have equal economic and social
opportunities for LGBT seniors will we be close to fulfilling our mission toward equality.
Finally, Kevin O'Grady does not speak for the entire LGBT community (here in Orange County. While I
admire the work of the organization that he heads and am supportive of it, most of us in the LGBT
community are educated people capable of voicing and supporting or own opinions. I am curious to
understand what " powerful message " we would be sending to the cities in Orange County?
Your Honor, I would suggest that the $7,500 to be used for the Rainbow Flag Project might better be
utilized to support the homeless shelter being proposed in Anaheim.
Please vote against this proposa'I. I like Councilwoman Martinez's suggestion: fly the Rainbow flag during
Pride week and on Harvey Milk Day.,
Should you have any questions Ican be reached at 714 582-2228. 1 live and work in Brea .
From: Terni. Shedd <stshedd c(�r cox.net>
Date: July 20, 2015 at 7:08:08 PM PDT
To: <inpulido(a,santa-ana.org>
Subject: Please
(Please represent the ma'orit of people you represent, not the minority. Why fly the rainbow flag? Is that all you
tallk about at council meetings... what color flag to fly?
Terri Shedd
Newport Coast
From: Lenore Powell
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 5:51:45 PM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: !City Council
Subject: Rainbow flag
Bear City Council Members, PLEASE DO NOT FLY A RAINBOW FLAG AT
THE CITY HALL. If you do this, you will be opening the flood
gates for every group to petition you to fly their flag. Besides
the rainbow flag is not a state flag or an. American flag. God
bless you all. Sincerely, Lenore Powell
From: Barbie Nellesen <
Date: July 20, 2015 at 4:54:5$ PM PDT
To: <mpulid @santa-ana.or >
Subject: rainbow flag over city hall
Dear sir,
Do you realize that homosexuals, bisexuals and transgendered represent 1.7% of the population.
The rainbow flag is a divisive. The American flag is uniting.
The American flag flies over government buildings because we can all identify with what it
represents.
We are all American.
Thank you,
Barbie Nellesen
From: Ann Coil <
][date: July 20, 2015 at 4:28:15 PM PDT
To: "mpqlidoa,santa-ana.org" <rn u1p ido@santa-ana.org>
subject: Flag
]Reply -To: Ann Coil <
lMayor Pulido,
I am adamantly opposed to the rainbow flag being flown over city council.
lNo other group has a flags flying above the city halll. You should not set a
precedent such as this, particularly one that is so controversial. I have a gay
brother who is very dear to me, but I still don't want the flag of a special
linterest group flying over city hall.
Ann Coil Ph.D.
Career Consultant
(714) 648-0227
anncoil@att.net www.coilscareeradvice.com
From: John Jaeger
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:SS:OS PM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: !City Council
Subject: The breathtaking arrogance of Salvador Tinerajo
Dear Santa Ana City Council:
Homosexuals insist on shoving their perverted agenda down everyone else's
throats. What they are doing is truly sick.
Homosexuals molest young boys at a much higher rate than normal men. It could
even be argued that only homosexuals molest boys, by definition.
The tragedy of that fact is that young boys are at a very vulnerable age, when they are
confused about everything. An alarming percentage of molested boys then become
homosexuals themselves. This has been well documented again and again. It
destroys the lie that homosexuality is "hereditary."
The more society gives in to homosexuals, the more demands they will shove down
our throats. Homosexuals are incredibly violent, committing a. disproportionately
large number of murders„ including mass murders. Examples include John Wayne
Cacy,Jeffrey Dahmer, Randy Draft, and Andrew Cunanan just to name a few.
These are facts, and facts are not "homophobic."
Is this the kind of world you want your children and grandchildren to be brought up
in, I ask you.
This sick item of "gay" flag should not even appear on the city council's agenda.
John Jaeger
Irvine
From: Lucy
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 11:07:53 AM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: ?City Council
Subject: Rainbow flag
]Clear City Council,
It's official the Supreme Court has ruled on marriage. Marriage is displayed to each other with a
ring to show their commitment., It's very personal.
The rainbow flag on the other hand is a NO to be displayed at the City Hall, The US flag -yes, the
Santa Ana flag -yes and the state of California flag -yes. All of these flags represent ALL people.
Please let us keep it simple and respect who we are -Americans living in the US in Santa Ana,
A No vote for the Rainbow Flag.
Respectfully
Lucy Burns
From; Rachel Parks
Seat: Monday, July 20, 2015 10:02.:36 AM (UTC -08:00) Pacific Time (US & Canada)
To: !City Council
5ubject: Rainbow Flag
Just so you know what the true meaning of the Rainbow means. I was born and raised in Santa
.dna and will be truly ashamed if you fly that flag. so glad I got the heck out of California when I
did. I now live in the Bible Belt Country and am proud of it. Get a clue folks! I pray everyday I
can get my parents out of your city before its too late.
Flake it a Great Day!
Rachel