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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCORRESPONDENCE - 75BCity Council Meeting p d.^ r 5 1/2018 Item 75B PUBLIC HEARING -ADOPT A RESOLUTION DECLARING INTENT TO CHANGE THE WARD No. BOUNDARIES; HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS 1 AND 2 ON MAY 1, 2018 AND MAY 3, 2018 RESPECTIVELY; AND ADOPT RESOLUTION DECLARING INTENT TO PLACE A CHARTER AMENDMENT FOR VOTER CONSIDERATION REGARDING BY -WARD ELECTIONS *RA -Recommended Action Tuesday, May 1, 2018 Page 1 of 1 Date of Name Representative of in Favor of In opposition Correspondence RA*. of RA*. 1 4/30/2018 Mike Tardif Santa Ana Resident Yes 2 4/30/2018 Debbie Mcewen Santa Ana Resident 3 4/30/2018 Jeff Dickman Santa Ana Resident 4 4/30/2018 Mike Tardif Santa Ana Resident 5 4/30/2018 Susana Sandoval Santa Ana Resident 6 4130/2018 Mike Tardif Santa Ana Resident 7 4/30/2018 Susana Sandoval Santa Ana Resident 8 4/30/2018 Mike Tardif Santa Ana Resident g 4/30/2018 Jeff Dickman Santa Ana Resident 10 5/1/2018 Mike Tardif Santa Ana Resident 11 5/1/2018 Chris S. Santa Ana Resident *RA -Recommended Action Tuesday, May 1, 2018 Page 1 of 1 Orozco, Norma From: Mike Tardif < Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 7:03 AM To: eComment; Cc: Councilmember Jose Solorio; Martinez, Michele; Villegas, Juan; 'David Benavides'; Benavides, David; Solorio, Jose; Martinez, Michele; Pulido, Miguel; Tinajero, Sal; Sarmiento, Vicente Subject: Ward Boundary Changes Categories: Correspondence I am opposed to Ward Boundary changes at this time. The City defined purpose for Ward boundary changes is to facilitate "by district" elections. There is no guarantee that "by district' elections will pass during the November election. The vote to determine if Wards will be "by district' should come first — before this Council can change ward boundaries for their own selfish political purposes. Mike Tardif Santa Ana Orozco, Norma From: Debbie Mcewen < Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 8:31 AM To: Cc: Councilmember Jose Solorio; Martinez, Michele; Villegas, Juan; David@davidbenavides.com; Benavides, David; Solorio, Jose; Martinez, Michele; Pulido, Miguel; Tinajero, Sal; Sarmiento, Vicente Subject: Re: Ward Boundary Changes Categories: Correspondence Mike Tardiff is absolutely spot on with this comment. One has to wonder why some council members are so determined to place the cart before the horse. Their frantic pace to make this District redraw happen does not pass the smell test. Their strategy it seems, is to exercise control over the next election cycle, not to just include the Asian community as they claim. In a message dated 4/30/2018 7:03:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: I am opposed to Ward Boundary changes at this time. The City defined purpose for Ward boundary changes is to facilitate "by district" elections. There is no guarantee that "by district" elections will pass during the November election. The vote to determine if Wards will be "by district" should come first — before this Council can change ward boundaries for their own selfish political purposes. Mike Tardif Santa Ana 19 Orozco, Norma From: Jeff Dickman < Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:53 AM To: Ce: Councilmember Jose Solorio; Martinez, Michele; Villegas, Juan; David@davidbenavides.com; Benavides, David; Solorio, Jose; Martinez, Michele; Pulido, Miguel; Tinajero, Sal; Sarmiento, Vicente Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes I don't believe there is a requirement that a vote on district vs. City wide elections must follow a vote on altering district boundaries. Reconsideration of district boundaries likely has it's own criteria as to whether the time is appropriate for change. Information about the criteria for redistricting may be helpful in this discussion. Those opposed to a vote on redistricting before a vote on citywide vs. district elections have a political agenda as robust as those those desiring redistricting. This is a indeed a political matter for both sides. Both sides have clear reasons for their positions. In brief, one side views the power base of Mayor Pulido as sufficiently corrupt to warrant action to overturn him. The other side worries about losing power and the changes from a new administration. For me, I fear consolidated power and corruption more than change. I worry more about the Mayor's self- interest and its impact on the city then change from a new administration. At least with change there exist new opportunities for community involvement then is offered by the current administration. . The old political regime of Miguel Pulido should die off. It must if die off if the the city hopes to grow beyond the strangle -hold Pulido has over it. If we seek at least the possibility for a more open and transparent government, business community, a better quality of life and better opportunities for all, we need to replace the old, derelict regime. It is too late for the Mayor to become an honest and ethical man. We all know this. It is time for change. And I do not mean a.legacy regime that Councilmember Solorio represents. Change needs to begin with a person unrelated and unthethered to the Mayor. A tall order but we do have people in the community who do not owe the Mayor even a smile. By any reasonable means, change must occur. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Debbie Mcewen [SantaAnaCitizens] < wrote: 3 Mike Tardiff is absolutely spot on with this comment. One has to wonder why some council members are so determined to place the cart before the horse. Their frantic pace to make this District redraw happen does not pass the smell test. Their strategy it seems, is to exercise control over the next election cycle, not to just include the Asian community as they claim. In a message dated 4/30/2018 7:03:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: am opposed to Ward Boundary changes at this time. City defined purpose for Ward boundary changes is to facilitate "by district" elections. is no guarantee that "by district" elections will pass during the November election. vote to determine if Wards will be "by district' should come first — before this Council can Tardif Ana Posted by: Debbie Mcewen < Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group ® Start a New Topic + Messages in this topic (2) Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (email, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. To unsubscribe, send an email to SantaAnaCitizens-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com. To subscribe, send an email to: and click on "Edit My Membership". Members of this list are expected to use good manners; please sign your posts with your name and neighborhood or location. Please remember to delete irrelevant text when replying to a message. Unless otherwise stated, the opinions expressed via this list are those of the author(s), and do not represent those of the list manager, other subscribers, any neighborhood association, the Communication Linkage Forum, the City of Santa Ana, the County of Orange, or the State of California. <><><> VISIT YOUR GROUP • Privacy , Unsubscribe • Terms of Use Orozco, Norma From: Mike Tardif < Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 10:04 AM To: Cc: Councilmember Jose Solorio; Martinez, Michele; Villegas, Juan; David@davidbenavides.com; Benavides, David; Solorio, Jose; Martinez, Michele; Pulido, Miguel; Tinajero, Sal; Sarmiento, Vicente Subject: RE: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes To be clear: I am not opposed to Ward boundary changes at the proper time (my opinion — not referencing any requirement). I have no political agenda other than I to deny the 3 Council members who are termed out the ability to play political games with Ward boundary changes for their own political self-interest. They are termed out —why should they determine a future to which they will not belong? Mike Tardif From: Jeff Dickman [ Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes I don't believe there is a requirement that a vote on district vs. City wide elections must follow a vote on altering district boundaries. Reconsideration of district boundaries likely has it's own criteria as to whether the time is appropriate for change. Information about the criteria for redistricting may be helpful in this discussion. Those opposed to a vote on redistricting before a vote on citywide vs. district elections have a political agenda as robust as those those desiring redistricting. This is a indeed a political matter for both sides. Both sides have clear reasons for their positions. In brief, one side views the power base of Mayor Pulido as sufficiently corrupt to warrant action to overturn him. The other side worries about losing power and the changes from a new administration. For me, I fear consolidated power and corruption more than change. I worry more about the Mayor's self- interest and its impact on the city then change from a new administration. At least with change there exist new opportunities for community involvement then is offered by the current administration. . The old political regime of Miguel Pulido should die off. It must if die off if the the city hopes to grow beyond the strangle -hold Pulido has over it. If we seek at least the possibility for a more open and transparent government, business community, a better quality of life and better opportunities for all, we need to replace the old, derelict regime. 4 It is too late for the Mayor to become an honest and ethical man. We all know this. It is time for change. And I do not mean a.legacy regime that Councilmember Solorio represents. Change needs to begin with a person unrelated and unthethered to the Mayor. A tall order but we do have people in the community who do not owe the Mayor even a smile. By any reasonable means, change must occur. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Debbie Mcewen [SantaAnaCitizens] < wrote: Mike Tardiff is absolutely spot on with this comment. One has to wonder why some council members are so determined to place the cart before the horse. Their frantic pace to make this District redraw happen does not pass the smell test. Their strategy it seems, is to exercise control over the next election cycle, not to just include the Asian community as they claim. In a message dated 4/30/2018 7:03:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: I am opposed to Ward Boundary changes at this time. The City defined purpose for Ward boundary changes is to facilitate "by district" elections. There is no guarantee that "by district' elections will pass during the November election. The vote to determine if Wards will be "by district' should come first — before this Council can Mike Tardif Santa Ana Posted by: Debbie Mcewen < Reply via web post > Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic - Messages in this topic (2) LL Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. <><><> To unsubscribe, send an email to To subscribe, send an email to: and click on "Edit My Membership". Members of this list are expected to use good manners; please sign your posts with your name and neighborhood or location. Please remember to delete irrelevant text when replying to a message. Unless otherwise stated, the opinions expressed via this list are those of the author(s), and do not represent those of the list manager, other subscribers, any neighborhood association, the Communication Linkage Forum, the City of Santa Ana, the County of Orange, or the State of California. VISIT YOUR GROUP --� • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use Orozco, Norma From: suzie c Sandoval < Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 2:12 PM To: Mike Tardif Cc: Michele; Villegas, Juan; David@davidbenavides.com; Benavides, David; Solorio, Jose; Martinez, Michele; Pulido, Miguel; Tinajero, Sal; Sarmiento, Vicente; Huizar, Maria; suzie c sandoval Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes Categories: Correspondence FYI, I did speak with Maria Huizar, Clerk of the Council regarding council members who are termed out, having the legal capability to run in another ward if District Lines/ Boundaries are re configured. As per Ms. Huizar, once a council member is termed out cannot run for reelection for a city council seat in another district. It is against the City Charter for a council member to run for another council seat once termed out. Now a council member who is termed out can run for the mayor's position, since this is a new position; which we are now witness to with current city council members who will be termed out this year, and are running for the Mayor's position. These are very confusing and chaotic times in our city government and the political arena. So important to get our questions answered, and the correct information. Best, Susana C. Sandoval Resident, Santa Ana On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Mike Tardif < wrote: To be clear: I am not opposed to Ward boundary changes at the proper time (my opinion — not referencing any requirement). I have no political agenda other than I to deny the 3 Council members who are termed out the ability to play political games with Ward boundary changes for their own political self-interest. They are termed out — why should they determine a future to which they will not belong? Mike Tardif 5 From: Jeff Dickman [ Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCltizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes I don't believe there is a requirement that a vote on district vs. City wide elections must follow a vote on altering district boundaries. Reconsideration of district boundaries likely has it's own criteria as to whether the time is appropriate for change. Information about the criteria for redistricting may be helpful in this discussion. Those opposed to a vote on redistricting before a vote on citywide vs. district elections have a political agenda as robust as those those desiring redistricting. This is a indeed a political matter for both sides. Both sides have clear reasons for their positions. In brief, one side views the power base of Mayor Pulido as sufficiently corrupt to warrant action to overturn him. The other side worries about losing power and the changes from a new administration. For me, I fear consolidated power and corruption more than change. I worry more about the Mayor's self- interest and its impact on the city then change from a new administration. At least with change there exist new opportunities for community involvement then is offered by the current administration. . The old political regime of Miguel Pulido should die off. It roust if die off if the the city hopes to grow beyond the strangle -hold Pulido has over it. If we seek at least the possibility for a more open and transparent government, business community, a better quality of life and better opportunities for all, we need to replace the old, derelict regime. It is too late for the Mayor to become an honest and ethical man. We all Imow this. It is time for change. And I do not mean alegacy regime that Cotmcilmember Solorio represents. Change needs to begin with a person unrelated and unthethered to the Mayor. A tall order but we do have people in the community who do not owe the Mayor even a smile. By any reasonable means, change must occur. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Debbie Mcewen [SantaAnaCitizens] < wrote: Mike Tardiff is absolutely spot on with this comment. One has to wonder why some council members are so determined to place the cart before the horse. Their frantic pace to make this District redraw happen does not pass the smell test. Their strategy it seems, is to exercise control over the next election cycle, not to just include the Asian community as they claim. In a message dated 4/30/2018 7:03:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: I am opposed to Ward Boundary changes at this time. The City defined purpose for Ward boundary changes is to facilitate "by district" elections. There is no guarantee that "by district" elections will pass during the November election. The vote to determine if Wards will be "by district' should come first — before this Council can Tardif Santa Ana Posted by: Debbie Mcewen < Reply via web post • Reply to sender . Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (2) Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. <><><> To unsubscribe, send an email to To subscribe, send an email to: and click on "Edit My Membership". Members of this list are expected to use good manners; please sign your posts with your name and neighborhood or location. Please remember to delete irrelevant text when replying to a message. Unless otherwise stated, the opinions expressed via this list are those of the author(s), and do not represent those of the list manager, other subscribers, any neighborhood association, the Communication Linkage Forum, the City of Santa Ana, the County of Orange, or the State of California. <><><> VISIT YOUR GROUP • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use Orozco, Norma From: Mile Tardif < Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 6:17 PM To: Tim Rush; Councilmember Jose Solorio; Martinez, Michele; Villegas, Juan; David@davidbenavides.com; Benavides, David; Solorio, Jose; Martinez, Michele; Pulido, Miguel; Tinajero, Sal; Sarmiento, Vicente; Huizar, Maria Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes Categories: Correspondence That is one of the issues involved Suzie. I would have more confidence if the termed out council members would state unequivocally that there will be no attempt to restart the clock on term limits. Thus far they they have not done so. Mike Tardif Santa Ana On Apr 30, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Jeff Dickman < wrote: Thank you Susana, Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:11 PM, suzie c sandoval < wrote: FYI, I did speak with Maria Huizar, Clerk of the Council regarding council members who are termed out, having the legal capability to run in another ward if District Lines/ Boundaries are re configured. As per Ms. Huizar, once a council member is termed out cannot run for reelection for a city council seat in another district. It is against the City Charter for a council member to run for another council seat once termed out. Now a council member who is termed out can run for the mayor's position, since this is a new position; which we are now witness to with current city council members who will be termed out this year, and are running for the Mayor's position. These are very confusing and chaotic times in our city government and the political arena. So important to get our questions answered, and the correct information. Best, Susana C. Sandoval Resident, Santa Ana On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Mike Tardif < wrote: To be clear: I am not opposed to Ward boundary changes at the proper time (my opinion — not referencing any requirement). I have no political agenda other than I to deny the 3 Council members who are termed out the ability to play political games with Ward boundary changes for their own political self-interest. They are termed out — why should they determine a future to which they will not belong? Mike Tardif From: Jeff Dickman [ Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes I don't believe there is a requirement that a vote on district vs. City wide elections must follow a vote on altering district boundaries. Reconsideration of district boundaries likely has it's own criteria as to whether the time is appropriate for change. Information about the criteria for redistricting may be helpful in this discussion. Those opposed to a vote on redistricting before a vote on citywide vs. district elections have a political agenda as robust as those those desiring redistricting. This is a indeed a political matter for both sides. Both sides have clear reasons for their positions. In brief, one side views the power base of Mayor Pulido as sufficiently corrupt to warrant action to overturn him. The other side worries about losing power and the changes from a new administration. For me, I fear consolidated power and corruption more than change. I worry more about the Mayor's self- interest and its impact on the city then change from a new administration. At least with change there exist new opportunities for community involvement then is offered by the current administration. . The old political regime of Miguel Pulido should die off. It must if die off if the the city hopes to grow beyond the strangle -hold Pulido has over it. If we seek at least the possibility for a more open and transparent government, business community, a better quality of life and better opportunities for all, we need to replace the old, derelict regime. It is too late for the Mayor to become an honest and ethical man. We all know this. It is time for change. And I do not mean a.legacy regime that Councilmember Solorio represents. Change needs to begin with a person unrelated and unthethered to the Mayor. A tall order but we do have people in the community who do not owe the Mayor even a smile. By any reasonable means, change must occur. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Debbie Mcewen [SantaAnaCitizens] <. wrote: Mike Tardiff is absolutely spot on with this comment. One has to wonder why some council members are so determined to place the cart before the horse. Their frantic pace to make this District redraw happen does not pass the smell test. Their strategy it seems, is to exercise control over the next election cycle, not to just include the Asian community as they claim. In a message dated 4/30/2018 7:03:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: I am opposed to Ward Boundary changes at this time. The City defined purpose for Ward boundary changes is to facilitate "by district" elections. There is no guarantee that "by district" elections will pass during the November election. The vote to determine if Wards will be "by district" should come first — before this Council can Tardif Santa Ana Posted by: Debbie Mcewen < Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group . Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (2) 0 Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (email, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. 000 . Members of this list are expected to use good manners; please sign your posts with your name and neighborhood or location. Please remember to delete irrelevant text when replying to a message. Unless otherwise stated, the opinions expressed via this list are those of the author(s), and do not represent those of the list manager, other subscribers, any neighborhood association, the Communication Linkage Forum, the City of Santa Ana, the County of Orange, or the State of California. G><>O Visit Your Group Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use Orozco, Norma From: suzie c Sandoval < Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 6:38 PM To: Mike Tardif Cc: Tim Rush; Councilmember Jose Solorio; Martinez, Michele; Villegas, Juan; David@davidbenavides.com; Benavides, David; Solorio, Jose; Martinez, Michele; Pulido, Miguel; Tinajero, Sal; Sarmiento, Vicente; Huizar, Maria; Irma Jauregui; Lisa Tran; Chris S Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes Categories: Correspondence Hello Mike: Actually I did email each of the city council members and the mayor for their position on the extension of term limits in mid March. Council members Juan Villegas, Jose Solorio, Vince Sanniento and Mayor Pro Temp Michele Martinez all responded to me in writing that they do not support the extension of term limits. David Benavides did respond to me and informed me that there is not community support for the extension of term limits; but he was not specific on his position. I did not get a response from Mayor Pulido, or council member Sal Tinajero. Best, Susana Sandoval On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Mike Tardif < wrote: That is one of the issues involved Suzie. would have more confidence if the termed out council members would state unequivocally that there will be no attempt to restart the clock on term limits. Thus far they they have not done so. Mike Tardif Santa Ana On Apr 30, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Jeff Dickman < wrote: Thank you Susana, Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:11 PM, suzie c Sandoval < wrote: FYI, I did speak with Maria Huizar, Clerk of the Council regarding council members who are termed out, having the legal capability to run in another ward if District Lines/ Boundaries are re configured. As per Ms. Huizar, once a council member is termed out cannot run for reelection for a city council seat in another district. It is against the City Charter for a council member to run for another council seat once termed out. Now a council member who is termed out can nm for the mayor's position, since this is a new position; which we are now witness to with current city council members who will be termed out this year, and are running for the Mayor's position. These are very confusing and chaotic times in our city government and the political arena. So important to get our questions answered, and the correct information. Best, Susana C. Sandoval Resident, Santa Ana On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Mike Tardif < wrote: To be clear: I am not opposed to Ward boundary changes at the proper time (my opinion — not referencing any requirement). I have no political agenda other than I to deny the 3 Council members who are termed out the ability to play political games with Ward boundary changes for their own political self-interest. They are termed out — why should they determine a future to which they will not belong? Mike Tardif From: Jeff Dickman [ Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes I don't believe there is a requirement that a vote on district vs. City wide elections must follow a vote on altering district boundaries. Reconsideration of district boundaries likely has it's own criteria as to whether the time is appropriate for change. Information about the criteria for redistricting may be helpful in this discussion. Those opposed to a vote on redistricting before a vote on citywide vs. district elections have a political agenda as robust as those those desiring redistricting. This is a indeed a political matter for both sides. Both sides have clear reasons for their positions. In brief, one side views the power base of Mayor Pulido as sufficiently corrupt to warrant action to overturn him. The other side worries about losing power and the changes from a new administration. For me, I fear consolidated power and corruption more than change. I worry more about the Mayor's self- interest and its impact on the city then change from a new administration. At least with change there exist new opportunities for comms pity involvement then is offered by the current administration. . The old political regime of Miguel Pulido should die off. It must if die off if the the city hopes to grow beyond the strangle -hold Pulido has over it. If we seek at least the possibility for a more open and transparent government, business community, a better quality of life and better opportunities for all, we need to replace the old, derelict regime. It is too late for the Mayor to become an honest and ethical man. We all know this. It is time for change. And I do not mean a.legacy regime that Councilmember Solorio represents. Change needs to begin with a person unrelated and unthethered to the Mayor. A tall order but we do have people in the community who do not owe the Mayor even a smile. By any reasonable means, change must occur. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Debbie Meewen [SantaAnaCitizens] < wrote: Mike Tardiff is absolutely spot on with this comment. One has to wonder why some council members are so determined to place the cart before the horse. Their frantic pace to make this District redraw happen does not pass the smell test. Their strategy it seems, is to exercise control over the next election cycle, not to just include the Asian community as they claim. In a message dated 4/30/2018 7:03:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: 1I am opposed to Ward Boundary changes at this time. The City defined purpose for Ward boundary changes is to facilitate "by district" elections. There is no guarantee that "by district" elections will pass during the November election. vote to determine if Wards will be "by district" should come first — before this Council can Tardif Santa Ana Posted by: Debbie Mcewen < Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (2) Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTtlnes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. <><><> . Members of this list are expected to use good manners; please sign your posts with your name and neighborhood or location. Please remember to delete irrelevant text when replying to a message. Unless otherwise stated, the opinions expressed via this list are those of the author(s), and do not represent those of the list manager, other subscribers, any neighborhood association, the Communication Linkage Forum, the City of Santa Ana, the County of Orange, or the State of California. <>oo Visit Your Group 11 • Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use Orozco, Norma From: Sent: To: Cc: Subject: Categories: Hi Susan, Mike Tardif < Monday, April 30, 2018 9:17 PM suzie c sandoval Tim Rush; Councilmember Jose Solorio; Martinez, Michele; Villegas, Juan; David@davidbenavides.com; Benavides, David; Solorio, Jose; Martinez, Michele; Pulido, Miguel; Tinajero, Sal; Sarmiento, Vicente; Huizar, Maria; Irma Jauregui; Lisa Tran; Chris S Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes Correspondence To be frank with you myself and others do not trust some members of the Council to not change their minds about term limits if they see an opportunity to do so. Most of this group deceived voters to vote for "term limit reform" - when they actually INCREASED their term limits. As a group this council does not deserve the trust of the voters. Mike Tardif Santa Ana On Apr 30, 2018, at 6:38 PM, suzie c sandoval < wrote: Hello Mike: Actually I did email each of the city council members and the mayor for their position on the extension of term limits in mid March. Council members Juan Villegas, Jose Solorio, Vince Sarmiento and Mayor Pro Temp Michele Martinez all responded to me in writing that they do not support the extension of term limits. David Benavides did respond to me and informed me that there is not community support for the extension of term limits; but he was not specific on his position. I did not get a response from Mayor Pulido, or council member Sal Tinajero. Best, Susana Sandoval On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Mike Tardif < wrote: That is one of the issues involved Suzie. I would have more confidence if the termed out council members would state unequivocally that there will be no attempt to restart the clock on term limits. Thus far they they have not done so. Mike Tardif Santa Ana 11 On Apr 30, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Jeff Dickman < wrote: Thank you Susana, Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:11 PM, suzie c sandoval < wrote: FYI, I did speak with Maria Huizar, Clerk of the Council regarding council members who are termed out, having the legal capability to run in another ward if District Lines/ Boundaries are re configured. As per Ms. Huizar, once a council member is termed out cannot ran for reelection for a city council seat in another district. It is against the City Charter for a council member to run for another council seat once termed out. Now a council member who is termed out can run for the mayor's position, since this is a new position; which we are now witness to with current city council members who will be termed out this year, and are running for the Mayor's position. These are very confusing and chaotic times in our city government and the political arena. So important to get our questions answered, and the correct information. Best, Susana C. Sandoval Resident, Santa Ana On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Mike Tardif < wrote: To be clear: I am not opposed to Ward boundary changes at the proper time (my opinion — not referencing any requirement). I have no political agenda other than I to deny the 3 Council members who are termed out the ability to play political games with Ward boundary changes for their own political self-interest. They are termed out — why should they determine a future to which they will not belong? Mike Tardif From: Jeff Dickman [ Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes I don't believe there is a requirement that a vote on district vs. City wide elections must follow a vote on altering district boundaries. Reconsideration of district boundaries likely has it's own criteria as to whether the time is appropriate for change. Information about the criteria for redistricting may be helpful in this discussion. Those opposed to a vote on redistricting before a vote on citywide vs. district elections have a political agenda as robust as those those desiring redistricting. This is a indeed a political matter for both sides. Both sides have clear reasons for their positions. In brief, one side views the power base of Mayor Pulido as sufficiently corrupt to warrant action to overturn him. The other side worries about losing power and the changes from a new administration. For me, I fear consolidated power and corruption more than change. I worry more about the Mayor's self- interest and its impact on the city then change from a new administration. At least with change there exist new opportunities for community involvement then is offered by the current administration. . The old political regime of Miguel Pulido should die off. It must if die off if the the city hopes to grow beyond the strangle -hold Pulido has over it. If we seek at least the possibility for a more open and transparent government, business community, a better quality of life and better opportunities for all, we need to replace the old, derelict regime. It is too late for the Mayor to become an honest and ethical man. We all know this. It is time for change. And I do not mean a.legacy regime that Councilmember Solorio represents. Change needs to begin with a person unrelated and unthethered to the Mayor. A tall order but we do have people in the community who do not owe the Mayor even a smile. By any reasonable means, change must occur. Sent frorn Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Debbie Mcewen [SantaAnaCitizens] < wrote: Mike Tardiff is absolutely spot on with this comment. One has to wonder why some council members are so determined to place the cart before the horse. Their frantic pace to make this District redraw happen does not pass the smell test. Their strategy it seems, is to exercise control over the next election cycle, not to just include the Asian community as they claim. In a message dated 4/30/2018 7:03:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: am opposed to Ward Boundary changes at this time. City defined purpose for Ward boundary changes is to facilitate "by district' elections. is no guarantee that "by district' elections will pass during the November election. The vote to determine if Wards will be "by district' should come first — before this Council can change ward boundaries for their own selfish political purposes. Mike Tardif Santa Ana Posted by: Debbie Mcewen < Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (2) Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (email, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000G13 of free cloud storage. M=SMM Members of this list are expected to use good manners; please sign your posts with your name and neighborhood or location. Please remember to delete irrelevant text when replying to a message. Unless otherwise stated, the opinions expressed via this list are those of the author(s), and do not represent those of the list manager, other subscribers, any neighborhood association, the Communication Linkage Forum, the City of Santa Ana, the County of Orange, or the State of California. 000 Visit Your Group Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use Orozco, Norma From: Jeff Dickman < Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 10:24 PM To: Michele; Villegas, Juan; David@davidbenavides.com; Benavides, David; Solorio, Jose; Martinez, Michele; Pulido, Miguel; Tinajero, Sal; Sarmiento, Vicente; Huizar, Maria; Irma Jauregui; Lisa Tran; Chris S Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes Categories: Correspondence Mike, my memory is a bit vague, however I remember Councilmember Alvarez pressing hard for the extension of term limits from 8 to 12 years. Didn't the Mayor support such in exchange for a few more years to the mayoral term? Mike I worry more about Miguel Pulido's political machine and the likelihood of a legacy regime then about the mere potential of the other councilmembers ever duplicating the depth of Mayor Pulido's control over the city. I don't get it Mike. We all know about what Pulido is capable of. Heck, there are competing investigations into Pulido and possible corruption charges. So tell me, why are you concerned about Sal, Vince, David or Michele. Again, I don't get it Mike. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 9:16 PM, Mike Tardif [SantaAnaCitizens] < wrote: Hi Susan, To be frank with you myself and others do not trust some members of the Council to not change their minds about term limits if they see an opportunity to do so. Most of this group deceived voters to vote for "tern limit reform" - when they actually INCREASED their term limits. As a group this council does not deserve the trust of the voters. Mike Tardif Santa Ana On Apr 30, 2018, at 6:38 PM, suzie c sandoval < wrote: Hello Mike: I Actually I did email each of the city council members and the mayor for their position on the extension of term limits in raid March. Council members Juan Villegas, Jose Solorio, Vince Sarmiento and Mayor Pro Temp Michele Martinez all responded to me in writing that they do not support the extension of tern limits. David Benavides did respond to me and informed me that there is not community support for the extension of term limits; but he was not specific on his position. I did not get a response from Mayor Pulido, or council member Sal Tinajero. Best, Susana Sandoval On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Mike Tardif < wrote: That is one of the issues involved Suzie. I would have more confidence if the termed out council members would state unequivocally that there will be no attempt to restart the clock on tern limits. Thus far they they have not done so. Mike Tardif Santa Ana On Apr 30, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Jeff Dickman < wrote: Thank you Susana, Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:11 PM, suzie c sandoval < wrote: FYI, I did speak with Maria Huizar, Clerk of the Council regarding council members who are termed out, having the legal capability to run in another ward if District Lines/ Boundaries are re configured. As per Ms. Huizar, once a council member is termed out cannot run for reelection for a city council seat in another district. It is against the City Charter for a council member to run for another council seat once termed out. Now a council member who is termed out can run for the mayor's position, since this is a new position; which we are now witness to with current city council members who will be termed out this year, and are running for the Mayor's position. These are very confusing and chaotic times in our city government and the political arena. So important to get our questions answered, and the correct information. Best, Susana C. Sandoval Resident, Santa Ana On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Mike Tardif < wrote: To be clear: I am not opposed to Ward boundary changes at the proper time (my opinion — not referencing any requirement). I have no political agenda other than I to deny the 3 Council members who are termed out the ability to play political games with Ward boundary changes for their own political self-interest. They are termed out — why should they determine a future to which they will not belong? Mike Tardif From: Jeff Dickman [ Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes I don't believe there is a requirement that a vote on district vs. City wide elections must follow a vote on altering district boundaries. Reconsideration of district boundaries likely has it's own criteria as to whether the time is appropriate for change. Information about the criteria for redistricting may be helpful in this discussion. Those opposed to a vote on redistricting before a vote on citywide vs. district elections have a political agenda as robust as those those desiring redistricting. This is a indeed a political matter for both sides. Both sides have clear reasons for their positions. In brief, one side views the power base of Mayor Pulido as sufficiently corrupt to warrant action to overturn him. The other side worries about losing power and the changes from a new administration. For me, I fear consolidated power and corruption more than change. I worry more about the Mayor's self-interest and its impact on the city then change from a new administration. At least with change there exist new opportunities for community involvement then is offered by the current administration. . The old political regime of Miguel Pulido should die off. It must if die off if the the city hopes to grow beyond the strangle -hold Pulido has over it. If we seek at least the possibility for a more open and transparent government, business community, a better quality of life and better opportunities for all, we need to replace the old, derelict regime. It is too late for the Mayor to become an honest and ethical man. We all know this. It is time for change. And I do not mean a. legacy regime that Councilmember Solorio represents. Change needs to begin with a person unrelated and unthethered to the Mayor. A tall order but we do have people in the community who do not owe the Mayor even a smile. By any reasonable means, change must occur. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Debbie Mcewen [SantaAnaCitizens] < wrote: Mike Tardiff is absolutely spot on with this comment. One has to wonder why some council members are so determined to place the cart before the horse. Their frantic pace to make this District redraw happen does not pass the smell test. Their strategy it seems, is to exercise control over the next election cycle, not to just include the Asian community as they claim. In a message dated 4/30/2018 7:03:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: 1 am opposed to Ward Boundary changes at this time. The City defined purpose for Ward boundary changes is to facilitate "by district" elections. There is no guarantee that "by district" elections will pass during the November election. The vote to determine if Wards will be "by district" should come first — before this Council can change ward boundaries for their own Mike Tardif Santa Ana Posted by: Mike Tardif < Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic (7) Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? 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VISIT YOUR GROUP 'Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use Orozco, Norma From: Mike Tardif < Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 6:57 AM To: Michele; Villegas, Juan; David@davidbenavides.com; Benavides, David; Solorio, Jose; Martinez, Michele; Pulido, Miguel; Tinajero, Sal; Sarmiento, Vicente; Huizar, Maria; 'Irma Jauregui'; 'Lisa Tran'; 'Chris S' Subject: RE: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes Categories: Correspondence This is not about a single Council member or the Mayor— I couldn't care less about the mayor— except I will be glad he will no longer be Mayor in 2 years. However, I wonder if Pulido can run for a Council seat (other than Mayor) in 2 years .... This is about Ward boundary changes pushed by a group of council members who are on their way out who want to have their own legacy regime through Ward boundary manipulation. And it is not about helping the Vietnamese — or they would have done that years ago. Mike Tardif Santa Ana From: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes Mike, my memory is a bit vague, however I remember Councilmember Alvarez pressing hard for the extension of tern limits from 8 to 12 years. Didn't the Mayor support such in exchange for a few more years to the mayoral term? Mike I worry more about Miguel Pulido's political machine and the likelihood of a legacy regime then about the mere potential of the other councilmembers ever duplicating the depth of Mayor Pulido's control over the city. I don't get it Mike. We all know about what Pulido is capable of. Heck, there are competing investigations into Pulido and possible corruption charges. So tell me, why are you concerned about Sal, Vince, David or Michele. Again, I don't get it Mike. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 9:16 PM, Mike Tardif [SantaAnaCitizens] < wrote: Hi Susan, To be frank with you myself and others do not trust some members of the Council to not change their minds about term limits if they see an opportunity to do so. Most of this group deceived voters to vote for "term limit \0 reform" - when they actually INCREASED their term limits. As a group this council does not deserve the trust of the voters. Mike Tardif Santa Ana On Apr 30, 2018, at 6:38 PM, suzie c sandoval < wrote: Hello Mike: Actually I did email each of the city council members and the mayor for their position on the extension of term limits in mid March. Council members Juan Villegas, Jose Solorio, Vince Sanniento and Mayor Pro Temp Michele Martinez all responded to me in writing that they do not support the extension of tenn limits. David Benavides did respond to me and informed me that there is not community support for the extension of term limits; but he was not specific on his position. I did not get a response from Mayor Pulido, or council member Sal Tinajero. Best, Susana Sandoval On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Mike Tardif < wrote: That is one of the issues involved Suzie. I would have more confidence if the termed out council members would state unequivocally that there will be no attempt to restart the clock on term limits. Thus far they they have not done so. Mike Tardif Santa Ana On Apr 30, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Jeff Dickman < wrote: Thank you Susana, Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:11 PM, suzie c sandoval < wrote: FYI, I did speak with Maria Huizar, Clerk of the Council regarding council members who are termed out, having the legal capability to run in another ward if District Lines/ Boundaries are re configured. As per Ms. Huizar, once a council member is termed out cannot run for reelection for a city council seat in another district. It is against the City Charter for a council member to run for another council seat once termed out. Now a council member who is termed out can run for the mayor's position, since this is a new position; which we are now witness to with current city council members who will be termed out this year, and are running for the Mayor's position. These are very confusing and chaotic times in our city government and the political arena. So important to get our questions answered, and the correct information. Best, Susana C. Sandoval Resident, Santa Ana On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Mike Tardif < wrote: To be clear: I am not opposed to Ward boundary changes at the proper time (my opinion — not referencing any requirement). I have no political agenda other than I to deny the 3 Council members who are termed out the ability to play political games with Ward boundary changes for their own political self-interest. They are termed out — why should they determine a future to which they will not belong? Mike Tardif From: Jeff Dickman [ Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes I don't believe there is a requirement that a vote on district vs. City wide elections must follow a vote on altering district boundaries. Reconsideration of district boundaries likely has it's own criteria as to whether the time is appropriate for change. Information about the criteria for redistricting may be helpful in this discussion. Those opposed to a vote on redistricting before a vote on citywide vs. district elections have a political agenda as robust as those those desiring redistricting. This is a indeed a political matter for both sides. Both sides have clear reasons for their positions. In brief, one side views the power base of Mayor Pulido as sufficiently corrupt to warrant action to overturn him. The other side worries about losing power and the changes from a new administration. For me, I fear consolidated power and corruption more than change. I worry more about the Mayor's self-interest and its impact on the city then change from a new administration. At least with change there exist new opportunities for community involvement then is offered by the current administration. . The old political regime of Miguel Pulido should die off. It must if die off if the the city hopes to grow beyond the strangle -hold Pulido has over it. If we seek at least the possibility for a more open and transparent government, business commtiuvty, abetter quality of life and better opportunities for all, we need to replace the old, derelict regime. It is too late for the Mayor to become an honest and ethical man. We all know this. It is time for change. And I do not mean a.legacy regime that Councilmember Solorio represents. Change needs to begin with a person unrelated and unthethered to the Mayor. A tall order but we do have people in the community who do not owe the Mayor even a smile. By any reasonable means, change must occur. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Debbie Mcewen [SantaAnaCitizens] < wrote: Mike Tardiff is absolutely spot on with this comment. One has to wonder why some council members are so determined to place the cart before the horse. Their frantic pace to make this District redraw happen does not pass the smell test. Their strategy it seems, is to exercise control over the next election cycle, not to just include the Asian community as they claim. In a message dated 4/30/2018 7:03:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: 1I am opposed to Ward Boundary changes at this time. The City defined purpose for Ward boundary changes is to facilitate "by district" elections. is no guarantee that "by district" elections will pass during the fiber election. he vote to determine if Wards will be "by district" should come first before this Council can change ward boundaries for their own Tardif Santa Ana Posted by: Jeff ,Dickman < Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic o Messages in this topic () 0 _.`_. Have you tried the highest rated email app? With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. .. Members of this list are expected to use good manners; please sign your posts with your name and neighborhood or location. Please remember to delete irrelevant text when replying to a message. Unless otherwise stated, the opinions expressed via this list are those of the author(s), and do not represent those of the list manager, other subscribers, any neighborhood association, the Communication Linkage Forum, the City of Santa Ana, the County of Orange, or the State of California. VISIT YOUR GROUP ------- -'Privacy • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use Orozco, Norma From: Chris S < Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 8:49 AM To: Mike Tardif Cc: Councilmember Jose Solorio; Martinez, Michele; Villegas, Juan; David@david benavides.com; Benavides, David; Solorio, Jose; Martinez, Michele; Pulido, Miguel; Tinajero, Sal; Sarmiento, Vicente; Huizar, Maria; Irma Jauregui; Lisa Tran Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes Categories: Correspondence I would like to know how our current Ward Boundaries violates both State and Federal laws, and the California Voters Rights Act. "The City Council also decided to consider changing the Ward boundaries to ensure that they are consistent with Federal and State law, including the CVRA." https://nixle.com/alert/"6535226 On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:57 AM, Mike Tardif < wrote: This is not about a single Council member or the Mayor — I couldn't care less about the mayor — except I will be glad he will no longer be Mayor in 2 years. However, I wonder if Pulido can run for a Council seat (other than Mayor) in 2 years .... This is about Ward boundary changes pushed by a group of council members who are on their way out who want to have their own legacy regime through Ward boundary manipulation. And it is not about helping the Vietnamese — or they would have done that years ago. Mike Tardif Santa Ana From: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes Mike, my memory is a bit vague, however I remember Councilmember Alvarez pressing hard for the extension of term limits from 8 to 12 years. Didn't the Mayor support such in exchange for a few more years to the mayoral term? Mike I worry more about Miguel Pulido's political machine and the likelihood of a legacy regime then about the mere potential of the other councilmembers ever duplicating the depth of Mayor Pulido's control over the city. I don't get it Mike. We all know about what Pulido is capable of. Heck, there are competing investigations into Pulido and possible corruption charges. So tell me, why are you concerned about Sal, Vince, David or Michele. Again, I don't get it Mike. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 9:16 PM, Mike Tardif [SantaAnaCitizens] < wrote: Hi Susan, To be frank with you myself and others do not trust some members of the Council to not change their minds about tenn limits if they see an opportunity to do so. Most of this group deceived voters to vote for "term limit reform" - when they actually INCREASED their term limits. As a group this council does not deserve the trust of the voters. Mike Tardif Santa Ana On Apr 30, 2018, at 6:38 PM, suzie c sandoval < wrote: Hello Mike: Actually I did email each of the city council members and the mayor for their position on the extension of term limits in mid March. Council members Juan Villegas, Jose Solorio, Vince Sarmiento and Mayor Pro Temp Michele Martinez all responded to me in writing that they do not support the extension of tenn limits. David Benavides did respond to me and informed me that there is not community support for the extension of term limits; but he was not specific on his position. I did not get a response from Mayor Pulido, or council member Sal Tinajero. Best, Susana Sandoval On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Mike Tardif < wrote: That is one of the issues involved Suzie. I would have more confidence if the termed out council members would state unequivocally that there will be no attempt to restart the clock on term limits. Thus far they they have not done SO. Mike Tardif Santa Ana On Apr 30, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Jeff Dickman < wrote: Thank you Susana, Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 2:11 PM, suzie c sandoval < wrote: FYI, I did speak with Maria Huizar, Clerk of the Council regarding council members who are termed out, having the legal capability to run in another ward if District Lines/ Boundaries are re configured. As per Ms. Huizar, once a council member is termed out cannot run for reelection for a city council seat in another district. It is against the City Charter for a council member to run for another council seat once termed out. Now a council member who is termed out can run for the mayor's position, since this is a new position; which we are now witness to with current city council members who will be termed out this year, and are running for the Mayor's position. These are very confusing and chaotic times in our city government and the political arena. So important to get our questions answered, and the correct information. Best, Susana C. Sandoval Resident, Santa Ana On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 10:03 AM, Mike Tardif < wrote: To be clear: I am not opposed to Ward boundary changes at the proper time (my opinion — not referencing any requirement). I have no political agenda other than I to deny the 3 Council members who are termed out the ability to play political games with Ward boundary changes for their own political self-interest. They are termed out — why should they determine a future to which they will not belong? Mike Tardif From: Jeff Dickman [ Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [SantaAnaCitizens] Re: Ward Boundary Changes I don't believe there is a requirement that a vote on district vs. City wide elections must follow a vote on altering district boundaries. Reconsideration of district boundaries likely has it's own criteria as to whether the time is appropriate for change. Information about the criteria for redistricting may be helpful in this discussion. Those opposed to a vote on redistricting before a vote on citywide vs. district elections have a political agenda as robust as those those desiring redistricting. This is a indeed a political matter for both sides. Both sides have clear reasons for their positions. In brief, one side views the power base of Mayor Pulido as sufficiently corrupt to warrant action to overturn him. The other side worries about losing power and the changes from a new administration. For me, I fear consolidated power and corruption more than change. I worry more about the Mayor's self-interest and its impact on the city then change from a new administration. At least with change there exist new opportunities for community involvement then is offered by the current administration. . The old political regime of Miguel Pulido should die off. It must if die off if the the city hopes to grow beyond the strangle -hold Pulido has over it. If we seek at least the possibility for a more open and transparent government, business community, a better quality of and better opportunities for all, we need to replace the old, derelict regime. It is too late for the Mayor to become an honest and ethical man. We all know this. It is time for change. And I do not mean a.legacy regime that Councilmember Solorio represents. Change needs to begin with a person unrelated and unthethered to the Mayor. A tall order but we do have people in the community who do not owe the Mayor even a smile. By any reasonable means, change must occur. Sent from Yahoo Mail on. Android On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:30 AM, Debbie Mcewen [SantaAnaCitizens] < wrote: Mike Tardiff is absolutely spot on with this comment. One has to wonder why some council members are so determined to place the cart before the horse. Their frantic pace to make this District redraw happen does not pass the smell test. Their strategy it seems, is to exercise control over the next election cycle, not to just include the Asian community as they claim. In a message dated 4/30/2018 7:03:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: I am opposed to Ward Boundary changes at this time. The City defined purpose for Ward boundary changes is to facilitate "by district" elections. There is no guarantee that "by district' elections will pass during the November election. The vote to determine if Wards will be "by district' should come first — before this Council can change ward boundaries for their own Mike Tardif Santa Ana Posted by: Jeff Dickman < Reply via web post • Reply to sender • Reply to group • Start a New Topic • Messages in this topic () Have you tried the highest rated email app? 9 With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your inboxes (Grnail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. .. Members of this list are expected to use good manners; please sign your posts with your name and neighborhood or location. Please remember to delete irrelevant text when replying to a message. 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