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ALUU Minutes Page 3 December 18, 2003 Mr, Brady related his conversation with the FAA manager, who signed the Determination and who stated that had an impact on JWA been found, FAA would have asked the developer to lower the building, before issuing any decision. He described in detail his prior experience with the FAA and the tallest office building in Towne Center, Costa Mesa, during the mid -1980$ when the FAA and the developer negotiated and reached a compromise on the structure's design to a maximum height above ground, thereby avoiding a hazard Determination, The FAA did modify a seldom used aircraft procedure, while announcing it would not do so again. Replying to Commissioner Propst, Mr. Brady explained that JWA does not own the airspace, under the 1964 Irvine Company avigation easement purchase, above the project site; and he confirmed that commercial jetliners are the primary users of Runway 19R. Conunissioner Ptopst described a typical ILS approach to Runway 19R, asking about the project's Proximity to an acceptable flight envelope for that procedure and for a missed - approach with a go- around, Mr, Brady cited the FAA's figures that the project is about .6 mile perpendicular from a point on the extended centerline, 6,200' outward from the end of 19R, Commissioner Propst likened the project to the parking structure beneath the approach to Lindbergh Field, noting that although apparently technically consistent, the project is in a bad location, Mr. Brady referred him to the specific project site shown on the radar track graphic. Commissioner Campbell stated her concern with the altitudes of arriving aircraft and the project's height, asking whether there are similar high -rise residential buildings this close to the runway. Mr. Brady repeated that the combination of location, height and use make this an unprecedented project, although he knows of similar projects being proposed nearby, Commissioner Campbell stated her strong concerns with the project's proximity to JWA. She noted from the radar graphic that aircraft will over -fly the site on approach to 19R, while observing that the loss of El Toro airspace will put more demand on JWA.. She added that aircraft are not as maneuverable as some may think, especially during windy conditions, and putting people under the approach does not protect them or the airport, Mr. Brady confirmed that the ALUC has reviewed numerous low -rise residential projects near JWA during the year, the current project being different from those, Commissioner Webb queried whether there is any ALUC policy or basis to deny the project? Chairman Bresnahan noted that the A.LVC has responsibility to interpret the facts, including the facts pertaining to various Commissioners' cancers, such as noise impact on residents in a high -rise and the possible effect on the navigable airspace. He concurred that previous ALUC reviews covered projects to the sides of the airport, whereas the current project is unique in being the first one near the approach corridor. He repeated that the ALVC has the ability to find the project Inconsistent if such a finding is based on facts. Gih'd LbS'ON HOI5SIQkJO3 3SA &Iel 1rJOdJIN lJd I:T S7] 'zZ'JCW